IR Scare Tactics Plan SH EBA/LH EBA
Since they don’t care beyond their next bonus, I don’t need to much either - just trying to suck them dry over the next few years!
Music to my ears, nothing better than the sound of an assignment 👏👏👏
Music to my ears, nothing better than the sound of an assignment 👏👏👏
There good aren’t they, right aircraft for the right route. Yea sure , 737s doing Bali from Sydney and Melbourne. They winge about training costs, why is there so much training? Lousy 737 contract people leave to get to long haul ASAP to get a life back and lastly so many small fleets in long haul. Get your s##t together have 777 and 787 and you will have a whole lot less training costs but then you couldn’t blame the pilots for the chaos that is Qantas today.
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Andrew David said it at yesterday’s briefing...2 is now 6.
....and soon to become 10 A320’s. Reminds me of another small airline Qantas acquired that wasn’t going to compete on mainline routes...we even got a letter from Mr Dixon on that one.
We all got complacent....again, even more when we got a sniff of a shiny new jet and recruitment. I can feel it all grinding to a halt....again, sorry new hires but the music is about to stop, enjoy whatever seat you have!
We all got complacent....again, even more when we got a sniff of a shiny new jet and recruitment. I can feel it all grinding to a halt....again, sorry new hires but the music is about to stop, enjoy whatever seat you have!
Andrew David said it at yesterday’s briefing...2 is now 6.
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In the nearly 10 years since AJ became CEO, there have been exactly ZERO orders for mainline while QF has faffed around with:
RedQ
Terminal decline
Billion dollar losses
Billion dollar profits
Jetstar HK
Grounding of the entire QF fleet
..and now they’ve been caught out with an aging fleet and long wait times for replacements and now, somehow, it’s our fault?
What a joke.
RedQ
Terminal decline
Billion dollar losses
Billion dollar profits
Jetstar HK
Grounding of the entire QF fleet
..and now they’ve been caught out with an aging fleet and long wait times for replacements and now, somehow, it’s our fault?
What a joke.
In the nearly 10 years since AJ became CEO, there have been exactly ZERO orders for mainline while QF has faffed around with:
RedQ
Terminal decline
Billion dollar losses
Billion dollar profits
Jetstar HK
Grounding of the entire QF fleet
..and now they’ve been caught out with an aging fleet and long wait times for replacements and now, somehow, it’s our fault?
What a joke.
RedQ
Terminal decline
Billion dollar losses
Billion dollar profits
Jetstar HK
Grounding of the entire QF fleet
..and now they’ve been caught out with an aging fleet and long wait times for replacements and now, somehow, it’s our fault?
What a joke.
Once upon a time I contemplated doing my HSC maths again so I could throw in an application but having reading this thread from the beginning I'm now so very glad I was a no hoper in high school who doesn't meet the lofty educational requirements to be a pilot in QF.
Good luck to those of you in side QF. Sounds very messy.
Good luck to those of you in side QF. Sounds very messy.
At least you've been shown the bargaining template for your next EBA negotiations..
Follow their (Management's) example.
They won't sign an order for income producing assets because of "uncertainty" caused by the Pilot body (or whatever the scapegoat is this week). A financially suicidal decision based on....nothing. It's a wonder they keep operations going because of the "uncertainty" that there may be a hull loss one day.
Then fine.
Come next EBA, no agreement from the SH/ LH Pilot bodies until Management remove all of the uncertainties in the negotiation equations.
Demand complete removal of doubt surrounding:
- Trans Tasman flying,
- The growth of subsidiary companies and their use/ purpose in the group,
- Transparency in future fleet planning,
- etc
- etc and;
- etc.
Until then, no ball. No signatures.
Condolences on what could/ should be a great career, tarnished by Accounts/ MBA's and "Talent Aquisition Specialists" who can't see past the next bonus.
I had to walk away from my flying career due to Family reasons, and used to mourn this every day. Knowing that this is how you are treated in what is meant to be the top flying job in Australia goes a long way towards numbing the pain.
They won't sign an order for income producing assets because of "uncertainty" caused by the Pilot body (or whatever the scapegoat is this week). A financially suicidal decision based on....nothing. It's a wonder they keep operations going because of the "uncertainty" that there may be a hull loss one day.
Then fine.
Come next EBA, no agreement from the SH/ LH Pilot bodies until Management remove all of the uncertainties in the negotiation equations.
Demand complete removal of doubt surrounding:
- Trans Tasman flying,
- The growth of subsidiary companies and their use/ purpose in the group,
- Transparency in future fleet planning,
- etc
- etc and;
- etc.
Until then, no ball. No signatures.
Condolences on what could/ should be a great career, tarnished by Accounts/ MBA's and "Talent Aquisition Specialists" who can't see past the next bonus.
I had to walk away from my flying career due to Family reasons, and used to mourn this every day. Knowing that this is how you are treated in what is meant to be the top flying job in Australia goes a long way towards numbing the pain.
Oh man, you guys are so far behind the 8 ball!!
The corporates have been setting this provocation for ages, and are 10 steps ahead, and you guys are crying about how hard done by you are.
You guys are pilots, not wharfies, and they know that.
The corporates have been setting this provocation for ages, and are 10 steps ahead, and you guys are crying about how hard done by you are.
You guys are pilots, not wharfies, and they know that.
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When is this going to be notified to the ASX?
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Jetconnect get very few applicants.
Network cannot crew A320 on the terms offered.
This is self evident.
Tino has an interesting pedigree for anyone interested. Lots of 'accounting' went on during his time at Ansett.
I have read with interest his 'labour substitution' suggestions.
Lowering labour unit cost and Ms Millen gives you the new bosses, same as the old bosses.
Remain astounded that they were invited. The union ought retract the draw bridge, not concede more ground.
Something along the lines of 'get the aircraft, don't get the aircraft, you can't be trusted. Oh and by the way the concessions granted on a weekly basis in good faith are rescinded'.
There is a big shortage and they now know it. Slow to the party they are catching on fast, telegraphing more of the same at Fort Fumbles.
Network cannot crew A320 on the terms offered.
This is self evident.
Tino has an interesting pedigree for anyone interested. Lots of 'accounting' went on during his time at Ansett.
I have read with interest his 'labour substitution' suggestions.
Lowering labour unit cost and Ms Millen gives you the new bosses, same as the old bosses.
Remain astounded that they were invited. The union ought retract the draw bridge, not concede more ground.
Something along the lines of 'get the aircraft, don't get the aircraft, you can't be trusted. Oh and by the way the concessions granted on a weekly basis in good faith are rescinded'.
There is a big shortage and they now know it. Slow to the party they are catching on fast, telegraphing more of the same at Fort Fumbles.
Nunc est bibendum
I did get some insight into the ‘787 replacing the 744’ scenario. 6 787s will actually increase capacity based on the plans of how the entire 787 network will fit together. IE they’ll get more hours out of the 787s to more destinations than they will he equivalent number of 744s. It’s therefore likely they’ll actually need more crew for those 6 787s than they currently have for the similar number of 744s they’ll replace. (Not sure of exact numbers).