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Old 30th Nov 2017, 08:34
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and it has been proven to be a poor decision, short term at least.
Her name was Fiona Balfour. CIO at Qantas....

Rest assured the architects of this mess have already been handsomely rewarded for short term thinking, is the Strayan way after all. IR cannot relinquish control, HR is bolted on. The modern corporation, university and even most of the airlines suffer the same curse.

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https://www.ch-aviation.com/portal/n...for-qantaslink
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This used to be a mainline run. Guess it will work down to a wet leased metro eventually. Customers won’t notice....
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Improve reliability, but there will be freed up capacity at the same time, on the 717? So who gets the “unreliable” 717 capacity then? I’m calling this QF BS spin!
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Originally Posted by bazza stub
Improve reliability, but there will be freed up capacity at the same time, on the 717? So who gets the “unreliable” 717 capacity then? I’m calling this QF BS spin!
717 being redeployed as per Qantas expands 717 domestic network | Australian Aviation

Unfortunately around 30% of the workforce has vanished and the existing flights cannot be crewed let alone any extra.

Also this https://m.themorningbulletin.com.au/...s-imp/3265946/

And Mackay as well.
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Wobbly old 330 takeoff?!

Redeployed=Expands?!
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Interesting read given the current circumstances:-

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/b...7-12?r=US&IR=T
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Just heard that a “great way” for management to stem the flow of exiting pilots is to threaten their career progression and decree that Mainline wont be takig any more 717 pilots until their own crew shortage is sorted! 😣

Hope its only a rumour but wow! Way to go.... more than one game in town ladies/gents

(And IR wonder why engagment surverys are the way they are)
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I doubt it's true but if it is, it will only make things worse.


Too many opportunities coming up, why the hell would anyone work for QANTAS or Cobham anyway?
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Originally Posted by bazza stub
why the hell would anyone work for QANTAS ?
Really

I could give you a few dozen reasons...
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Go on then....
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Yes, please, I'm waiting too
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Just heard that a “great way” for management to stem the flow of exiting pilots is to threaten their career progression and decree that Mainline wont be takig any more 717 pilots until their own crew shortage is sorted! ��
They may own the aircraft, but the pilot owns the endorsement and the hours. From you they rent it.
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Job security, money, lifestyle, great equipment, amazing training department, almost 100 Year’s of operational excellence, amazing FO’s and Cabin Crew, whole departments to back me up - Flt planners, Met, ops and maint watch....

Need I go on?
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Don’t most other places have all that as well?
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Job security, money, lifestyle, great equipment, amazing training department, almost 100 Year’s of operational excellence, amazing FO’s and Cabin Crew, whole departments to back me up - Flt planners, Met, ops and maint watch....
Best viewed from the correct seat, I would certainly agree with you.
Airlines are the best of team sports.

For many pilots structural shortages are apparent all over the industry.This adversarial conduct of management was predicated on unlimited supply. This has nothing to do with support of operational functions but everything to do with a career path and all that entails. To a Cobham pilot commuting contracts where the skill set is remunerated correctly and perhaps even a modicum of respect for your professional skill set may be something that finally allows them to leave.
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Don’t most other places have all that as well?
The amount of Pilots applying and aspiring for a Career in QF presently indicates that QF must have something extra going for it.

I’ve been flying with FO’s back from the sandpit of late and it’s amazing how the grass is always greener on the other side, everyone of them has said they now appreciate what they’ve got with QF more than ever.

No worries, if you don’t want a job with QF, go somewhere else.


Ps: I enjoy reading your well constructed and thoughtful posts Rated De

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No worries, if you don’t want a job with QF, go somewhere else.
I think you’ll find many at Cobham do want to work for QF, but there is rumored to be an invisible force stopping them.
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I’ve been flying with FO’s back from the sandpit of late and it’s amazing how the grass is always greener on the other side, everyone of them has said they now appreciate what they’ve got with QF more than ever.
I would agree that EK and EY would very quickly reveal to any emphatic that it is a modern Orwellian state with 'guest workers' and even more loss of rights.

Job security, money, lifestyle, great equipment, amazing training department, almost 100 Year’s of operational excellence, amazing FO’s and Cabin Crew, whole departments to back me up - Flt planners, Met, ops and maint watch....
Am assuming that the pilots you talk to actually don't dispute that those elements are present in the UAE too. What is missing is respect.

From my connections there, both inside and out aviation, one, no matter what their field is merely a 'guest worker'. Perhaps the Cobham pilots feel this way too and given the opportunities presenting are quietly removing themselves from the toxicity of QF adversarial Ir.
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Any current or past Cobham 717 pilots care to comment on work conditions? Interviews are happening for the 717 right now and I'm thinking about applying. For example, do Cobham pilots get NO travel benefits (ID90) at all? The EBA is currently under renegotiation. Any ideas what the main points of contention that the current pilots would like to see improved are?
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