Tigerair fleet change to B737.
Hey AerialPerspective Guru / in the know & No Crap Master
Who is running under the Callsign TEGOS pls
Is it of any fact, AQZ are running TT flts ex MML
Who is running under the Callsign TEGOS pls
Is it of any fact, AQZ are running TT flts ex MML
Who cares about callsigns in that organisation anyway... VA's ICAO callsign is 'Velocity' which the aircraft use, yet the ground use 'Virgin' which is actually the Virgin Atlantic ICAO callsign yet they get away with it... even when VS was operating into Sydney. I just wonder why they don't get pulled up about it and forced to use Velocity for ground as well... what's the point of a callsign being registered if that's the case???
Aerial perspective, the "virgin" callsign you refer to is a radio telephony callsign applicable to ATC comms.
The use of "Virgin" by Virgin AMCO on company frequency is not governed by the icao doc and they could call themselves "purple underpants with pink dots" if they wanted to.
Virgin Blue used "Virgin" as a radio telephony callsign for years - 2000 until about 2011 if I remember correctly under an agreement with Airservices. Even with Atlantic operating into Australia - the Atlantic Australian flight numbers were quarantined so there weren't any duplications.
It was only the push to get a common callsign across PB, the 777 operation and the Australian domestic operation that they switched to velocity
The use of "Virgin" by Virgin AMCO on company frequency is not governed by the icao doc and they could call themselves "purple underpants with pink dots" if they wanted to.
Virgin Blue used "Virgin" as a radio telephony callsign for years - 2000 until about 2011 if I remember correctly under an agreement with Airservices. Even with Atlantic operating into Australia - the Atlantic Australian flight numbers were quarantined so there weren't any duplications.
It was only the push to get a common callsign across PB, the 777 operation and the Australian domestic operation that they switched to velocity
Aerial perspective, the "virgin" callsign you refer to is a radio telephony callsign applicable to ATC comms.
The use of "Virgin" by Virgin AMCO on company frequency is not governed by the icao doc and they could call themselves "purple underpants with pink dots" if they wanted to.
Virgin Blue used "Virgin" as a radio telephony callsign for years - 2000 until about 2011 if I remember correctly under an agreement with Airservices. Even with Atlantic operating into Australia - the Atlantic Australian flight numbers were quarantined so there weren't any duplications.
It was only the push to get a common callsign across PB, the 777 operation and the Australian domestic operation that they switched to velocity
The use of "Virgin" by Virgin AMCO on company frequency is not governed by the icao doc and they could call themselves "purple underpants with pink dots" if they wanted to.
Virgin Blue used "Virgin" as a radio telephony callsign for years - 2000 until about 2011 if I remember correctly under an agreement with Airservices. Even with Atlantic operating into Australia - the Atlantic Australian flight numbers were quarantined so there weren't any duplications.
It was only the push to get a common callsign across PB, the 777 operation and the Australian domestic operation that they switched to velocity
Have you considered that the ground station is identifying themselves?
They are Virgin Sydney not Velocity Sydney. Similarly contracted airlines call Qantas Sydney if they use Qantas for ground handling. If you are talking licensing regs I assume you mean Part 61?
As far as licensing is concerned I don't know if ground people require a flight radiotelephony licence - they used to if I remember correctly but not sure these days - but they could call themselves "Big Sky base" if they wanted
They are Virgin Sydney not Velocity Sydney. Similarly contracted airlines call Qantas Sydney if they use Qantas for ground handling. If you are talking licensing regs I assume you mean Part 61?
As far as licensing is concerned I don't know if ground people require a flight radiotelephony licence - they used to if I remember correctly but not sure these days - but they could call themselves "Big Sky base" if they wanted
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These are the issues currently in Australia, what a ground handler is called on the company frequency 😐
Seriously, who cares.
Seriously, who cares.
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and they could call themselves "purple underpants with pink dots" if they wanted to.
Evertonian
Have you considered that the ground station is identifying themselves?
They are Virgin Sydney not Velocity Sydney. Similarly contracted airlines call Qantas Sydney if they use Qantas for ground handling. If you are talking licensing regs I assume you mean Part 61?
As far as licensing is concerned I don't know if ground people require a flight radiotelephony licence - they used to if I remember correctly but not sure these days - but they could call themselves "Big Sky base" if they wanted
They are Virgin Sydney not Velocity Sydney. Similarly contracted airlines call Qantas Sydney if they use Qantas for ground handling. If you are talking licensing regs I assume you mean Part 61?
As far as licensing is concerned I don't know if ground people require a flight radiotelephony licence - they used to if I remember correctly but not sure these days - but they could call themselves "Big Sky base" if they wanted
And no, Part 64 CASR covers licensing for Radio Operators but I don't think it covers callsigns.
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No, no one is saying it's an issue, just a comment that's all. It's supposed to be a discussion forum. No need to make a sarcastic comment just because you disagree. There is plenty of absolute CRAP on pprune such as 57 pages on a coloured logo on an aicraft which has nothing to do with day to day airline ops.
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Yes... Qantas say "QANTAS TWO-NINER this is QANTAS SYDNEY". They do that because Qantas' ICAO callsign is Qantas. British Airways' is Speedbird and they don't say in London "BA London this is Speedbird Eleven" they say "Speedbird London". Carriers who are handled by Qantas call Qantas Sydney because that's what their route manual tells them to do because the handling is by Qantas and no one is going to answer if they use their own company callsign because there's no one there to answer. Every airline I'm aware of that calls it's own company groundstations uses it's ICAO call sign except VA. If there's a process to obtain callsigns and VS has "Virgin" but VA is allowed to use it, what is the point of getting callsigns and registering them in the first place, why not just use whatever they want???
And no, Part 64 CASR covers licensing for Radio Operators but I don't think it covers callsigns.
And no, Part 64 CASR covers licensing for Radio Operators but I don't think it covers callsigns.
The issue with VA started when they expanded into international ops. If they stayed a domestic carry then the use of Virgin wold not have been a problem.
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Some TT passengers might get a nice ride soon.... Alliance just bought another F70 from the Dutch royal family.....
Dutch government plane sold to Australian airline for ?3,7 million | NL Times
Dutch government plane sold to Australian airline for ?3,7 million | NL Times
'China Southern 343 Hold short of alpha and Give way to the Velocity 737'
'Where is the Velocity, I see no Velocity'
'Give way to the 737 on your right'
'Ahh yes I see 737 give way, and where is the velocity coming'
'Where is the Velocity, I see no Velocity'
'Give way to the 737 on your right'
'Ahh yes I see 737 give way, and where is the velocity coming'
I'm sorry I made the original (partly tongue in cheek) comment. Unfortunately pprune is getting like this, an innocent comment sometimes elicits pages and pages of argumentative back and forth. I'm done, I DO have better things to do than carry this on any further. This is almost as bad as the Gay Colors thread that went on for 57 pages and had ZERO do to with aviation... actually, no, it's not as bad as that.
I already acknowledged about 5 posts back other's viewpoints by saying "Fair enough..." FFS.
And someone mentioned above that I should go to the United States... no, I shouldn't and I hope we never base our standards in this country on that environment.
I already acknowledged about 5 posts back other's viewpoints by saying "Fair enough..." FFS.
And someone mentioned above that I should go to the United States... no, I shouldn't and I hope we never base our standards in this country on that environment.
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