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Old 1st Dec 2017, 09:13
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I'm hearing an increase in hour requirements including multi crew. Pilots that attended the Qlink roadshow were asked why they weren't applying to Qlink and they answered because mainline was hiring.
It took them long enough to figure out that if you hire G.A guys and gals straight into mainline there will be no one to fill other positions like Qlink and other subsidiaries. 👏🏼

Anybody else heard of the increase in hour requirements?
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Old 2nd Dec 2017, 10:20
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Originally Posted by Fok View Post
I'm hearing an increase in hour requirements including multi crew. Pilots that attended the Qlink roadshow were asked why they weren't applying to Qlink and they answered because mainline was hiring.
It took them long enough to figure out that if you hire G.A guys and gals straight into mainline there will be no one to fill other positions like Qlink and other subsidiaries. 👏🏼

Anybody else heard of the increase in hour requirements?
Have heard similar rumours from qlink Pilots.

I assume their thinking is if they exclude ga pilots from mainline, they will want to work for qlink, which is not the case.
Qlink will become purely a stepping stone for people who never really wanted to be there in the first place, and will leave first chance they get.
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Old 2nd Dec 2017, 15:14
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Qlink will become purely a stepping stone for people who never really wanted to be there in the first place, and will leave first chance they get.
That's was Qlink has been for the last +10 years. They've always been well aware of it too.
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Old 2nd Dec 2017, 15:15
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Originally Posted by Flyboy1987 View Post
Have heard similar rumours from qlink Pilots.

I assume their thinking is if they exclude ga pilots from mainline, they will want to work for qlink, which is not the case.
Qlink will become purely a stepping stone for people who never really wanted to be there in the first place, and will leave first chance they get.
Flyboy you seem to be in the know.

What percentage of Australian regional pilots want to work for a larger carrier, and what percentage of GA pilots would choose to follow that path via the regionals? Where do GA pilots want to work?
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Old 2nd Dec 2017, 15:22
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Originally Posted by *Lancer* View Post
Flyboy you seem to be in the know.

What percentage of Australian regional pilots want to work for a larger carrier, and what percentage of GA pilots would choose to follow that path via the regionals? Where do GA pilots want to work?
If they donít really have a choice then the question is moot.
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Old 2nd Dec 2017, 22:40
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Originally Posted by *Lancer* View Post
Flyboy you seem to be in the know.

What percentage of Australian regional pilots want to work for a larger carrier, and what percentage of GA pilots would choose to follow that path via the regionals? Where do GA pilots want to work?
In the past, the door to mainline for qlink Pilots has been shut, from my understanding. Itís currently open with qlink drivers getting start dates with mainline, sometimes with long waits as qlink is becoming understaffed.
Will this door stay open in the next 5-10 years?

Yes qlink are aware that theyíve been a stepping stone, but a stepping stone for other carriers which I donít think theyíve been too impressed with, but they canít blame pilots for leaving for cathay/Middle East.

As for where do ga pilots want to work? Mixed bag. But since VA has reduced minimums with hiring advertised for next year, iíve spoken to quite a few pilots who have switched their cover letters from qlink to virgin.
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Old 2nd Dec 2017, 22:41
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Btw, the minimum I heard was time on aircraft plus 13 tonne.
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 02:21
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is there still a january course?

how about february?
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 15:02
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Originally Posted by bagchucka View Post
is there still a january course?

how about february?
From what I can gather there still is, but they are running smaller courses than originally planned.
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Old 15th Dec 2017, 21:58
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‘Smaller courses’ if/ when they occur are likely to be due more to training capacity than need.

Merry Christmas everyone. 2018 is likely to be another positive year for Qantas.
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Old 18th Jan 2018, 22:05
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Happy new year everyone.

It sounds like a positive kick-off to the new year with start dates awarded for Feb/Mar training courses on the 330 and Jumbo. Is anyone in the know on how many in a course/how often they'll run?

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Old 19th Jan 2018, 12:29
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Iíve heard 13 courses this year.... evenly spaced throughout the year
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 13:29
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Does anybody know how start dates are allocated (once on the hold file)?
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Old 21st Jan 2018, 19:53
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Originally Posted by Guest123 View Post
Does anybody know how start dates are allocated (once on the hold file)?
From what Iíve heard the ďofficialĒ answer is that newly-processed successful applicants are placed at the bottom of the hold file; start dates are offered ďfrom the top downĒ.

but.... again anecdotally.... itís not always that simple....🤔
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 08:21
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Are assessment days still being run or have they gone through the whole list?
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Old 22nd Jan 2018, 11:07
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Did anyone who was unsuccessful get any feedback after their assessment day, like we were told we would prior to attending?
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 14:11
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And after they've studied for the aptitude test maybe they can brush up on their customer service skills on how to manage a restaurant when shit hits the fan...
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Old 28th Jan 2018, 23:47
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And after they've studied for the aptitude test maybe they can brush up on their customer service skills on how to manage a restaurant when shit hits the fan...
That's not a joke either, folks. It also gives you an idea of the mental understanding the people who 'run' the airline actually have of what an airline really does. Qf pilots got an email a few years ago explaining how to identify a 747!

If it were me (and I'm pretty confident I wouldn't get in) I would -LOVE- to question the questioner as to what restaurant/business experience they actually have, and in fact have they ever even owned, run or managed said business. IE: given their provable lack of experience in those types of matters, what the hell are they doing asking absolutely stupid questions they have no personal idea of the 'right' answer to?

I suspect it's partly about choosing 100% yes men* who will swallow drivel from their incompetent managers without question. And that is EXACTLY the sort of person I would NOT want in the LH seat on an aircraft I was travelling on, and unlike an HR drone, I DO know what I'm talking about.

*Being slightly facetious I suspect women only need be 10% yes men (lesbians even less so) given current attitudes to gender equality at QF.
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 01:40
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If you are going in for an interview it may be helpful to know that the restaurant scenario posed by the HR person at the interview is all about how you manage multiple issues at the same time. This comes straight from one of the pilots who sits on the recruiting panels. So itís good information.
If it helps to make it more Aviation related just change the word restaurant for A380, Jumbo, 777, SAAB, Metro etc.
Change the term Restaurant Manager to Aircraft Captain.
The fussy customer is now a disgruntled passenger. The waiter with an attitude is now a flight attendant etc etc.

The questions are just to see how you will manage the situations that are being given to you. No different to being a pilot on whatever aeroplane you fly now in whichever seat you find yourself in. As a copilot, when the Captain falls over you are going to have to step up and take control of the situation.

Best of luck to everyone whoís applying. Iíve been told that recruitment will continue for a long time to come.










Originally Posted by V-Jet View Post
That's not a joke either, folks. It also gives you an idea of the mental understanding the people who 'run' the airline actually have of what an airline really does. Qf pilots got an email a few years ago explaining how to identify a 747!

If it were me (and I'm pretty confident I wouldn't get in) I would -LOVE- to question the questioner as to what restaurant/business experience they actually have, and in fact have they ever even owned, run or managed said business. IE: given their provable lack of experience in those types of matters, what the hell are they doing asking absolutely stupid questions they have no personal idea of the 'right' answer to?

I suspect it's partly about choosing 100% yes men* who will swallow drivel from their incompetent managers without question. And that is EXACTLY the sort of person I would NOT want in the LH seat on an aircraft I was travelling on, and unlike an HR drone, I DO know what I'm talking about.

*Being slightly facetious I suspect women only need be 10% yes men (lesbians even less so) given current attitudes to gender equality at QF.
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Old 30th Jan 2018, 02:21
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Originally Posted by A/F Armed View Post
If you are going in for an interview it may be helpful to know that the restaurant scenario posed by the HR person at the interview is all about how you manage multiple issues at the same time. This comes straight from one of the pilots who sits on the recruiting panels. So itís good information.
If it helps to make it more Aviation related just change the word restaurant for A380, Jumbo, 777, SAAB, Metro etc.
Change the term Restaurant Manager to Aircraft Captain.
The fussy customer is now a disgruntled passenger. The waiter with an attitude is now a flight attendant etc etc.

The questions are just to see how you will manage the situations that are being given to you. No different to being a pilot on whatever aeroplane you fly now in whichever seat you find yourself in. As a copilot, when the Captain falls over you are going to have to step up and take control of the situation.

Best of luck to everyone whoís applying. Iíve been told that recruitment will continue for a long time to come.
And here in lies the real problem with modern interviewing. They're giving you a scenario which can be viewed as similar to how you'd handle issues as a pilot but a lot of people may not see it that way.

Why do it like this?

It's not right but until someone with a background in the particular role (ie pilots) takes back control of recruitment then nothing will change unfortunately.
I suspect that if that question were aviation based and not on a hypothetical restaurant they'd get more successful candidates.
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