Qantas Recruitment
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,240
Originally Posted by JPJP
This is why they make you complete all parts of the testing prior to the Board. It’s the oldest trick in the H.R. book - If the medical turns up something that they believe will cost them money and/or your productivity in a decade, they are able to legally reject you. The candidate will never know that they were rejected for medical reasons, since it can be argued that there was some other fiendish flaw found in the totality of the information in your application (interview, simulator, or the cut of your jib).
If a job offer is extended pending the results of your medical, and you hold the required CASA Class 1; it is illegal to reject you on medical grounds. American Airlines used to have a medical prior to employment. They were informed that it was illegal, and quietly dropped that portion of the assessment.
Precisely.
It is even more nefarious than that.
As there is growing correlation between high altitude exposure to radiation and the continued circadian rhythm disturbance for long haul night operations, airlines are increasingly requiring all sorts of waivers prior to employment.
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Sydney
Age: 55
Posts: 1,543
Originally Posted by JPJP
This is why they make you complete all parts of the testing prior to the Board. It’s the oldest trick in the H.R. book - If the medical turns up something that they believe will cost them money and/or your productivity in a decade, they are able to legally reject you. The candidate will never know that they were rejected for medical reasons, since it can be argued that there was some other fiendish flaw found in the totality of the information in your application (interview, simulator, or the cut of your jib).
If a job offer is extended pending the results of your medical, and you hold the required CASA Class 1; it is illegal to reject you on medical grounds. American Airlines used to have a medical prior to employment. They were informed that it was illegal, and quietly dropped that portion of the assessment.
I was initially knocked back with no explanation in 1995, they changed eyesight standard (previously the same as RAAF apparently, no glasses allowed!) and I was put on hold late 86, got in 1988. Two and a half years of lost seniority.
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Sydney
Age: 55
Posts: 1,543
Originally Posted by dragon man
The no glasses rule was changed only because they ran out of suitable applicants. Crazy.
Age for employment went from 28 up to 46 over a few years for the same reason and no discrimination allowed (officially) anymore.
Luckily getting in when I did saved me from Ansett, overseas airlines etc etc. 🤔
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Sydney
Age: 36
Posts: 47
Originally Posted by Gligg
Surely once you get to medical stage, a no means you have been 'out-medicalled' Sounds like Gattaca has arrived.
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Australia
Posts: 20
I’ve been told the feedback from HR was actually quite open about why you were knocked back.
In saying that, some of the reasons are a joke. It seems flying a plane well is down the priority list these days.
In saying that, some of the reasons are a joke. It seems flying a plane well is down the priority list these days.
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: back to the land of small pay and big bills
Age: 45
Posts: 1,038
I wouldn’t put too much stock in feedback anyway..if they thought your dandruff and stale sweat and body odor issues weren’t conducive to being an airline pilot they’re going to say that a combination of sim and tech exam reasons or something to avoid saying the real reasons
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: everywhere at once
Posts: 15
Originally Posted by beauzo111
Anybody have an idea as to when or how often the final review board is held each month for a final decision?
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 32
Originally Posted by Max-Diff
I believe it's every two three weeks but that said I'm aware some people recently have waited 4 weeks plus. Maybe try calling if you haven't heard anything by three weeks or so. Good luck!
Some people tried chasing it up, hold up with medicals
on the doctors desk was the more often then not then answer. Some tried being a little push and were put in their place to a degree. As always, no news is good news
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Earth
Posts: 318
The issue is that even if you end up on the hold file it doesn't guarantee employment. Offering of a start date is dependent on performance in the interview and if people after you continuously perform better then you are perpetually on hold
Nunc est bibendum
Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 5,176
Originally Posted by Slezy9
I know of two guys who got put on the hold file in November last year. They are both still waiting for start dates. Long time to be in limbo!
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: everywhere at once
Posts: 15
Originally Posted by TurningFinalRWY36
The issue is that even if you end up on the hold file it doesn't guarantee employment. Offering of a start date is dependent on performance in the interview and if people after you continuously perform better then you are perpetually on hold
While this used to be the case, I don't believe it is anymore as they worked out that phosophy is completely unfair. Everyone I know who have got QF jobs recently, did so in the order that they went onto the hold file.
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Darwin
Posts: 40
Originally Posted by Max-Diff
While this used to be the case, I don't believe it is anymore as they worked out that phosophy is completely unfair. Everyone I know who have got QF jobs recently, did so in the order that they went onto the hold file.
