Qantas 787 recruitment for cadetship
After hearing many horror stories of both direct entry pilots and cadets getting royally screwed by Qantas Recruiting if I was one of those guys I'd almost be considering a pre-emptive resignation from Qlink just so you dont get stuffed around a second time. QF works on seniority so you want to be in the queue as soon as possible.
Qlink have around 65 QF cadets and LOI holders. We were all asked to update out details between the 2-7 March on a QF website
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Wait until the JQ pilots start exercising their rights under the MOU while QF guys who have been SOs for nearly 10 years get pushed further from promotion. 12-18 months from now those numbers will probably get you an FO slot on a 330 in Sydney or Melbourne under the LH EA which is much more pleasant than the JQ one.
While it is certainly true these guys have the ability to come across from the dark side, it would mean giving up commands to do so. Some even 787 commands I expect, without knowing the exact demographic of those involved, just their relative seniority.
This will probably be an attractive option for some. Certainly those mainline MOU guys recently returning from A320 commands in JQ and finding themselves as A380 S/Os with the prospect of promotion in the short term are happy to be back. That said, it may not result in a flood of defectors. Some may be happy with their lot in JQ and stay.
I must admit I'm a little amused by the irony of the shoe now being on the other foot. Those more junior JQ crew who had a little sook when they witnessed A320 commands going to mainline MOU guys instead of them are about to benefit, albeit indirectly, from those very senior JQ guys leaving under the MOU for mainline. Combine that with the QF MOU guys returning and it should mean more commands for them within JQ.
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JQ MOU?
The MOU is not a right that can be enforced or demanded. It's an agreed method for pilots to move from one airline to another when both sides are willing to facilitate it. You can't just say, "Qantas are training and I want my MOU slot now."
I can't see a JQ - QF MOU opportunity coming up, but you never know, the upcoming QF training allocation is going to be "interesting". I would rather see something for the junior JQ pilots, a LWOP opportunity similar to the Q pilots perhaps.
The MOU is not a right that can be enforced or demanded. It's an agreed method for pilots to move from one airline to another when both sides are willing to facilitate it. You can't just say, "Qantas are training and I want my MOU slot now."
I can't see a JQ - QF MOU opportunity coming up, but you never know, the upcoming QF training allocation is going to be "interesting". I would rather see something for the junior JQ pilots, a LWOP opportunity similar to the Q pilots perhaps.
Mou? Time to start a darwin base I guess
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Wait until the JQ pilots start exercising their rights under the MOU while QF guys who have been SOs for nearly 10 years get pushed further from promotion. 12-18 months from now those numbers will probably get you an FO slot on a 330 in Sydney or Melbourne under the LH EA which is much more pleasant than the JQ one.
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Wait until the JQ pilots start exercising their rights under the MOU while QF guys who have been SOs for nearly 10 years get pushed further from promotion. 12-18 months from now those numbers will probably get you an FO slot on a 330 in Sydney or Melbourne under the LH EA which is much more pleasant than the JQ one.
Thats funny. The highest MOU seniority ghost number is 1691 which is a date of November 04. That seniority is a long long way off an east coast LH F/O slot.
Theage 65 thing has now locked in a number of retirements/ bids back to SH. There is no way to avoid that now.
18 months from now, maybe two years when we've been through two more training allocations I think it will be a lot closer than it looks now. If there is a surplus at JQ, what is now a seniority number in the high 1600s may be looking very favourable indeed.
A number of demoted FOs are unlikely to bite at a 330 slot. Why would they? More work, less money and the senior lifestyle is guaranteed for years to come now that the PSN question has been seen off. Their egos have already been bashed around enough by the RIN that they're not going to jump at a chance to get their third stripe back just to massage that.
I guess we'll see over time. Have a lovely day
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Maybe maybe not? Either way, pretty ordinary form trying to "out" someone on Pprune. Might even call it Jack?
Anyway, QF recruitment is the topic, not JQ Darwin base.
Anyway, QF recruitment is the topic, not JQ Darwin base.
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I'm surprised no one has noticed this yet (or mentioned it on here). On the qantas careers page you can currently apply for the qantaslink traineeship ( I know this is discussed in another thread). Now whilst submitting the qantaslink pilot traineeship application, There is a step where you need to upload a few documents. This page looks to be a generic recruitment page for both pilots and flight attendants as it has instructions for both applications. However in the description for pilots it states ' For Qantas cadet pilot program' (now I thought I was applying for a traineeship with qantaslink not a cadet pilot position with qantas). Hmmm maybe this page might be used for another job posting in the near future??
Now I'd post a picture but as its my first time using the forum I don't know how - sorry
Now I'd post a picture but as its my first time using the forum I don't know how - sorry
For Qantas cadet pilot program' (now I thought I was applying for a traineeship with qantaslink not a cadet pilot position with qantas). Hmmm maybe this page might be used for another job posting in the near future?
Obviously it's ok for HR to do that, but heaven forbid an applicant C&Ps their Cover Letter and leaves a bit from the old job in their!