Free Spirit Planning Burnie RPT?
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I know "there" plane is in cairns how've there was a 1900 at the northern finger at essendon one day early last week. even my captain was surprised unfortunately i didn't get the rego but he might of ill ask him tomorrow.
also i have seen the passengers go in and out of the free spirit terminal and from the terminal into the king air and also a light twin.
also i have seen the passengers go in and out of the free spirit terminal and from the terminal into the king air and also a light twin.
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iwillmakeiitoneday,
Initially you said you had seen their 1900 there a few times out the front of their building doing endorsement training and even charters. Now you are saying you saw a 1900 parked on the northern finger. Free Sprit passengers boarding a King Air and a light twin. So which one is it? Was it a C or a D model?
Seeing a 1900 parked on the northern finger doesn't mean they or anyone else are doing endorsement training.
A quick check of flight aware on all the 1900's operating in Australia and I couldn't find any record of them being to YMEN at all this year.
Initially you said you had seen their 1900 there a few times out the front of their building doing endorsement training and even charters. Now you are saying you saw a 1900 parked on the northern finger. Free Sprit passengers boarding a King Air and a light twin. So which one is it? Was it a C or a D model?
Seeing a 1900 parked on the northern finger doesn't mean they or anyone else are doing endorsement training.
A quick check of flight aware on all the 1900's operating in Australia and I couldn't find any record of them being to YMEN at all this year.
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Ok, so there are many different aircraft coming and going from Essendon using the charter/RPT terminal. Is this new?
The real question is how many of these are actually going to WYY or MER?
The real question is how many of these are actually going to WYY or MER?
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April what year Rotor?
Just checked the website - it was down.
Just madness launching anything under 3 months lead time.
If you rely on the local alleged media here you should realise that they will believe it is your Mercedes, that it's only a cold sore and that you won't come in their mouth.
If anyone was thinking and they are starting up, maybe making the local retail Travel community would be the best bet.
Rex don't pay commissions and you have to book on their pain in the butt website to get the better fares where a client needs them so it would be logical if not mandatory to get us on the ride for viability.
If you can't book them, why announce the service?
Time for them to check their marketing management and consider a cull. Some family members obviously in positions they are overwhelmed by within the organisation.
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Just checked the website - it was down.
Just madness launching anything under 3 months lead time.
If you rely on the local alleged media here you should realise that they will believe it is your Mercedes, that it's only a cold sore and that you won't come in their mouth.
If anyone was thinking and they are starting up, maybe making the local retail Travel community would be the best bet.
Rex don't pay commissions and you have to book on their pain in the butt website to get the better fares where a client needs them so it would be logical if not mandatory to get us on the ride for viability.
If you can't book them, why announce the service?
Time for them to check their marketing management and consider a cull. Some family members obviously in positions they are overwhelmed by within the organisation.
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EWL, have to second RW they were plugging it yesterday on local print and radio!
Quick search on flightaware in fact reveals that their 1900 (VH-EMK) has actually arrived in Essendon.
Quick search on flightaware in fact reveals that their 1900 (VH-EMK) has actually arrived in Essendon.
I'm with stationair8 and EWL,
With their main website down, and their cadet website last updated in April 2014 and their FB account's last post Aug 2014, they don't strike me as being very active and ready to go.
This would not be the first time they have gone to the media claiming a start date. Last report from Mr Badov was ops before the end of 2014, then silence. Expect the same again.
With their main website down, and their cadet website last updated in April 2014 and their FB account's last post Aug 2014, they don't strike me as being very active and ready to go.
This would not be the first time they have gone to the media claiming a start date. Last report from Mr Badov was ops before the end of 2014, then silence. Expect the same again.
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There is still no news in the local paper,
Yesterday's radio report also mentioned that they had a liquor licence both at Wynyard & Essendon.
I had a look at the state liquor licence web site & their application for a liquor licence for Wynyard was granted on the 19th November 2014
continueapproach737 thanks for backing me up re the radio reports yesterday
Yesterday's radio report also mentioned that they had a liquor licence both at Wynyard & Essendon.
I had a look at the state liquor licence web site & their application for a liquor licence for Wynyard was granted on the 19th November 2014
continueapproach737 thanks for backing me up re the radio reports yesterday
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With all due respect to RW and continueapproach737...
The point that Eastwest Loco (and others) were making is that regardless of the radio coverage, if you can't access the webpage or haven't told the local travel agents that you're conducting a service, then you're not going to get bookings. Simple as that.
Marketing is king. If you don't get your message out there (and mid-April is only three weeks away) no-one is going to know you're operating. You may have the best service out there at the cheapest prices, but if no-one knows about it, you're still going to go broke.
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DIVOSH!
The point that Eastwest Loco (and others) were making is that regardless of the radio coverage, if you can't access the webpage or haven't told the local travel agents that you're conducting a service, then you're not going to get bookings. Simple as that.
Marketing is king. If you don't get your message out there (and mid-April is only three weeks away) no-one is going to know you're operating. You may have the best service out there at the cheapest prices, but if no-one knows about it, you're still going to go broke.
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That's just my point Di Vosh
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and craps in ponds it's a fair chance it's a duck but if nobody knows there is a duck for sale it in reality doesn't exist.
If I was a shareholder I would be furious at their pathetic attempt at marketing on a ridiculously short lead time.
Considering we are talking early to end of Easter break and on into the 2nd half of April the discretionary dollar has all been spent and the punters are generally set. They won't be thinking of the next holiday rush until after they have enjoyed the trip they booked in January.
Someone needs to take hold of the marketing and another the scheduling. It is not rocket science, but at the moment we have pocket science - hand in rapid motion.
If you are going to do it guys and girls man (and girl if applicable) up - delay launch until June, market properly with a website and inventory system with an active yield management component that has been designed by a professional.
The glass mountain is out there and some direction is needed to avoid it.
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EWL
If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and craps in ponds it's a fair chance it's a duck but if nobody knows there is a duck for sale it in reality doesn't exist.
If I was a shareholder I would be furious at their pathetic attempt at marketing on a ridiculously short lead time.
Considering we are talking early to end of Easter break and on into the 2nd half of April the discretionary dollar has all been spent and the punters are generally set. They won't be thinking of the next holiday rush until after they have enjoyed the trip they booked in January.
Someone needs to take hold of the marketing and another the scheduling. It is not rocket science, but at the moment we have pocket science - hand in rapid motion.
If you are going to do it guys and girls man (and girl if applicable) up - delay launch until June, market properly with a website and inventory system with an active yield management component that has been designed by a professional.
The glass mountain is out there and some direction is needed to avoid it.
Best all
EWL
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Noted and I tend to agree, but note where that aircraft has been in just the last 2 days. Talking with a couple of the Captains, proving flights next week, something sure is happening, maybe worth all the secrecy
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Front page add in today's local Advocate newspaper.
Something new is landing
Flying to Melbourne daily
Fine print says
Subject to regulatory approvals, all flight services are conducted by West Wing Aviation Pty Ltd
Something new is landing
Flying to Melbourne daily
Fine print says
Subject to regulatory approvals, all flight services are conducted by West Wing Aviation Pty Ltd
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Saw that Rotor
No start date, no phone number, no web address, no mention of destination airport therefore a waste of marketing dollars to tell people basically nothing.
I should start getting an invoice prepared to pay for the calls I am no doubt going to get, along with every other Agency on the Coast flooded with queries I have no way of answering.
All I can figure is that their Marketing "gurus" come cheap and are providing busy work for some dear people from a sheltered workshop.
No professionalism involved there.
Mid April?
They will need deep pockets as the 1st month to 2 months will be shipping air.
Poor form and planning.
Best all
EWL
No start date, no phone number, no web address, no mention of destination airport therefore a waste of marketing dollars to tell people basically nothing.
I should start getting an invoice prepared to pay for the calls I am no doubt going to get, along with every other Agency on the Coast flooded with queries I have no way of answering.
All I can figure is that their Marketing "gurus" come cheap and are providing busy work for some dear people from a sheltered workshop.
No professionalism involved there.
Mid April?
They will need deep pockets as the 1st month to 2 months will be shipping air.
Poor form and planning.
Best all
EWL
Website up again with flights pushed back to 30th April.
Fares to WYY start at 149.00. Looks like only one flight per day, based on a search i did for 15th May to 20th May return trip.
FSA - $149 EW
REX- $159 EW
I think I know my choice, unless you can drink 150 bucks worth of free booze in their lounge first.
Fares to WYY start at 149.00. Looks like only one flight per day, based on a search i did for 15th May to 20th May return trip.
FSA - $149 EW
REX- $159 EW
I think I know my choice, unless you can drink 150 bucks worth of free booze in their lounge first.
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Full page story on Free Sirit in today's Advocate Newspaper, complimentary bus service between Devonport & Wynyard, can't see anywhere about the complimentary bus service from Essendon to Melbourne city, it mentions there is a service from Essendon to Tullamarine.
Complimentary alcoholic & non alcoholic beverages with an assortment of snacks in the departure lounges.
East west Loco, have you booked your ticket yet?
Old age service with a new age smile, we are Australian, we are independant. We are proud. We are Free Spirit Airlines
Complimentary alcoholic & non alcoholic beverages with an assortment of snacks in the departure lounges.
East west Loco, have you booked your ticket yet?
Old age service with a new age smile, we are Australian, we are independant. We are proud. We are Free Spirit Airlines
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We shall see Rotor.
I wish them no ill will at all - just a little querulous on how they expect to get started with only basic information out there.
They would be a whole lot more attractive to Agents if the were GDS hosted as this takes a tenth the time to create and cost a booking than fighting with a website.
Rex get overlooked by making Agents book via their website to get the cheapest fares and then bill us if we load the booking with passive sectors into the GDS in order to download for accounting purposes.
Not the way to make friends or your Airline a 1st choice.
It will also be interesting to see if they are going to do a milk run with the DPO BWT transfer.
With so many potential pickup points it could become a very long trip!
Best all
EWL
I wish them no ill will at all - just a little querulous on how they expect to get started with only basic information out there.
They would be a whole lot more attractive to Agents if the were GDS hosted as this takes a tenth the time to create and cost a booking than fighting with a website.
Rex get overlooked by making Agents book via their website to get the cheapest fares and then bill us if we load the booking with passive sectors into the GDS in order to download for accounting purposes.
Not the way to make friends or your Airline a 1st choice.
It will also be interesting to see if they are going to do a milk run with the DPO BWT transfer.
With so many potential pickup points it could become a very long trip!
Best all
EWL
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There is like i said a 1900 at essendon rego VH-EMK and it has free spirit stickers all over it. the plane does move from time to time however i have not yet seen any passengers. it is also parked in the RPT apron which the airport is very strict on who they let park there.
i hope they do well.
i hope they do well.