Free Spirit Planning Burnie RPT?
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....Narrabri punters used to drive to TMW rather than gamble on the J32/Metro/J41 too.
The main factors were reliabilty, FF points, reliability, aircraft size and reliability.
I think reliability was a factor too.
Add to that the fact the punters were never guaranteed the aircraft would actually arrive, let alone depart, and overall I guess reliability could be said to be a contibuting factor.
The main factors were reliabilty, FF points, reliability, aircraft size and reliability.
I think reliability was a factor too.
Add to that the fact the punters were never guaranteed the aircraft would actually arrive, let alone depart, and overall I guess reliability could be said to be a contibuting factor.
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I have bitten my tongue until now but enough is enough.
Over the years I have seen Bizjets come and go with a Metro as well as Murray Valley with the Irish schoolbus into and out of Devonport as well as Aus Air out of MBW.
All went West on a smaller market than Wynyard.1
Base line facts are 25% minimum traffic is oncarriage. Write that off going into MEB.
Transport out of MEB is sketchy. When I was a kid the tram went right into the airport. Correct me if it isn't the case but I believe it no longer does.
Anything smaller than 34 seats will not entice the punters and never has, as the Metro Kendell services n the middle of the day didn't after the takeover by the fat butthole from TNT of the EW operations.
All I can see as an obvious is negotiations pending between the Port of Burnie, the Burnie Council and Wynyard/Waratah involving an undisclosed sling to open services that will no doubt fall over. It smacks of Impulse being thrown a big dollar that was never fully disclosed to open Launceston operations.
There is no logic to this so therefore operating to a commercially dead zone must be for reasons of short term financial gain.
The Councils down here aren't clever enough to avoid a spinning propeller.
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Over the years I have seen Bizjets come and go with a Metro as well as Murray Valley with the Irish schoolbus into and out of Devonport as well as Aus Air out of MBW.
All went West on a smaller market than Wynyard.1
Base line facts are 25% minimum traffic is oncarriage. Write that off going into MEB.
Transport out of MEB is sketchy. When I was a kid the tram went right into the airport. Correct me if it isn't the case but I believe it no longer does.
Anything smaller than 34 seats will not entice the punters and never has, as the Metro Kendell services n the middle of the day didn't after the takeover by the fat butthole from TNT of the EW operations.
All I can see as an obvious is negotiations pending between the Port of Burnie, the Burnie Council and Wynyard/Waratah involving an undisclosed sling to open services that will no doubt fall over. It smacks of Impulse being thrown a big dollar that was never fully disclosed to open Launceston operations.
There is no logic to this so therefore operating to a commercially dead zone must be for reasons of short term financial gain.
The Councils down here aren't clever enough to avoid a spinning propeller.
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EWL
Nobody says.
...and that's his point.
...and that's his point.
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With all due respect tauro, anyone who has a basic knowledge of commercial airport codings would regognise MEB as Essendon, just as MBW is Moorabbin.
Airline 101.
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Airline 101.
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In these times of supposed pilot surplus, the fact that they have repeatedly advertised for pilots in what is a very popular base has pegged my bull**** detector.
Possibly an elaborate pay to fly scheme?
Possibly an elaborate pay to fly scheme?
I love seeing new guys start out but this one is just a dreamer IMHO. I'm happy to eat my hat though.
Starting from nothing to an RPT operation seems to be a common dream and very VERY few actually pull it off.
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Starting from nothing to an RPT operation seems to be a common dream and very VERY few actually pull it off.
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Roman is a hell of nice guy, and with lots of courage to take on this challenge that has on statistics, odds against success that I'm sure every one wishes him and anyone else who takes on the challenge of starting another aviation business.
Lets hope their dreams come true.
I remember going to Burnie, I think it was on a vikers vicount when I was too young for even kindergarten but knew my morse code that got me a ride in the cockpit and lots of smiles as they wound the old ADF handle around and got me to identify the aids.
Lets hope their dreams come true.
I remember going to Burnie, I think it was on a vikers vicount when I was too young for even kindergarten but knew my morse code that got me a ride in the cockpit and lots of smiles as they wound the old ADF handle around and got me to identify the aids.
It's a nice thought Ramjet, but remember "There is no-one more dangerous than a fool with good intentions".
Nice guy or not, unless he has a sound business plan and lots os start-up cash (and neither seem to be the case) he has little chance.
That's fine- his funeral and that of anyone unwise enough to extend him credit- but he ALSO seems to be trolling for wannabes to stump up large amounts of cash on a fanciful "Cadet" scheme (anyone remember "AAA Airlines"??) and inevitably, some naive youngster will get caught up in the "Dream" and get well and truly stung.
Nice guy or not, unless he has a sound business plan and lots os start-up cash (and neither seem to be the case) he has little chance.
That's fine- his funeral and that of anyone unwise enough to extend him credit- but he ALSO seems to be trolling for wannabes to stump up large amounts of cash on a fanciful "Cadet" scheme (anyone remember "AAA Airlines"??) and inevitably, some naive youngster will get caught up in the "Dream" and get well and truly stung.
The naysayers always come out of the woodwork in these cases.
I have been around on PPRuNE long enough to see people say the same thing about Branson's effort at a startup in Australia and another one about Impulse (somebody even saying they'd run naked down the Sydney terminal if the latter lasted more than 6 months)...Impulse is now of course Jetstar. More recently JetGo was the subject of the same negative types and they seem to be doing ok.
So I wish these guys great success. Perhaps expand slowly into say Devonport and Wynyard and also to Albury and Mildura etc and maybe form an alliance with Sharp. A bit of competition is a fine idea.
I have been around on PPRuNE long enough to see people say the same thing about Branson's effort at a startup in Australia and another one about Impulse (somebody even saying they'd run naked down the Sydney terminal if the latter lasted more than 6 months)...Impulse is now of course Jetstar. More recently JetGo was the subject of the same negative types and they seem to be doing ok.
So I wish these guys great success. Perhaps expand slowly into say Devonport and Wynyard and also to Albury and Mildura etc and maybe form an alliance with Sharp. A bit of competition is a fine idea.
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The naysayers always come out of the woodwork in these cases