MERGED: Alan's still not happy......
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Ok, i work for an overseas airline. ( I had no desire to, prior to the year we don't talk about) . My home city is Perth. Even if I wanted to travel Qantas on an International sector I can't any more.
I spent a long time overseas, and hope to,enjoy, shortly, the fruits of my labor.
So, I say to my darling wife of 29 years, the kids are finally gone, let's start having some fun again...how about a week in Singapore.
I know exactly what she will say.....are we booking Business class honey ? With SIA...Cathay..or Malaysian...., if I told her we were flying Jokestar my 29 year marriage may go down the
I spent a long time overseas, and hope to,enjoy, shortly, the fruits of my labor.
So, I say to my darling wife of 29 years, the kids are finally gone, let's start having some fun again...how about a week in Singapore.
I know exactly what she will say.....are we booking Business class honey ? With SIA...Cathay..or Malaysian...., if I told her we were flying Jokestar my 29 year marriage may go down the
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Geez, that's a bit harsh.
I've paxed with J* a fair bit. The service may not be up there with Singapore Airlines, etc, but I'd be worried about the state of my marriage if one flight could unravel 29 years of love?
I'm sure you weren't being literal SOPS.
I've paxed with J* a fair bit. The service may not be up there with Singapore Airlines, etc, but I'd be worried about the state of my marriage if one flight could unravel 29 years of love?
I'm sure you weren't being literal SOPS.
I know exactly what she will say.....are we booking Business class honey ? With SIA...Cathay..or Malaysian...., if I told her we were flying Jokestar my 29 year marriage may go down the
I thought PER-SIN was A320 hence no J class/Star Class whatever!!!
Ken is winding up the spring for his next post.
Is this the price QF pays for jumping in bed with EK?
I see QF are cutting back on flights to LHR during May. If I recall this has never happened before. Whilst I'm sure this has been covered elsewhere, but is this the start of the slippery slope downwards for the kangaroo route?
Time will tell..............
Qantas to cut some Dubai to London flights in May - Business Traveller
Time will tell..............
Qantas to cut some Dubai to London flights in May - Business Traveller
and for the further record, QF have done so in the past - pre 380 days via SIN. Anyone who may have looked at the 'quiet times' to stafftravel to/from europe will have found days where various flights wouldn't show up... the 9 and 5 were the usual culprits.
hardly anything new, just folks trying to piss on the dxb thing even more. (that it deserves it is beside the point). Keep your facts straight.
hardly anything new, just folks trying to piss on the dxb thing even more. (that it deserves it is beside the point). Keep your facts straight.
Sunfish: but the fact remains that ALL of Australias economy ( including Qantas) has to be world competitive and if Qantas is not profitable at going rates then it deserves to go under.
Free Trade is the Holy Grail of so many politicians and bureaucrats.
Countries like OZ and NZ have a higher standard of living than many of the countries we now take services and products from. The workers in Oz and NZ do not "enjoy" the lower costs of living of these countries, they need higher wages to survive. The business owners in OZand NZ have much higher compliance costs, just take a look at H & S compliance compared to the many of the countries we import from. The end result is we transfer jobs off shore.
It might be Free Trade BUT is it Fair Trade?
I'd like to see the response of these politicians and bureaucrats if we as taxpayers told then we had found some better and cheaper politicians and bureaucrats from off shore and they were no longer needed.
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No I wasn't been literal....not quite
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hardly anything new, just folks trying to piss on the dxb thing even more. (that it deserves it is beside the point). Keep your facts straight.
Qantas trims Dubai-London services in wake of demand slowdown
It's a perception issue, similar to the Sol Trujillo Telstra thing, the media were onto him daily right up to the day he left. Cookies must be enabled. | The Australian Service industry companies have always been affected by these perceptions.
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Like BA, it hurt the Telstra business big time in the long lead up to the CEO's departure.
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How did BA solve the problems at GO?
They sold it to Venture capitalists 3i
BBC News | BUSINESS | BA sells Go for £100m
A year later 3i sell on to Easyjet.
BBC News | BUSINESS | Easyjet buys Go for £374m
They sold it to Venture capitalists 3i
BBC News | BUSINESS | BA sells Go for £100m
A year later 3i sell on to Easyjet.
BBC News | BUSINESS | Easyjet buys Go for £374m
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Interesting HHB. Exactly why Qantas can't sell Jetstar. It has value. Someone buys it, uses it's low cost base and operational infrastructure as a weapon, turns it into a premium carrier, and then it's curtains for mainline.
FT, what's the difference if some one else or AJ uses it as a weapon against Qantas? Same result but if it's sold some senior managers get big performance and success bonuses for a job well done.
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Mud Skipper,
I would argue that if Qantas sold Jetstar, or someone else had started a Jetstar-equivalent rather than Qantas, the end is even closer for Qantas mainline...
While sure some routes have been given to Jetstar, I suspect a well capitalised LCC would do/would have done far more damage, far more quickly.
The only solution is to get QFs cost base down - and this is not just wages, it is outdated inflexible work practices, massively inefficient levels of management,, as well as particularly internationally some things to level the playing field - depreciation rates, airport charges and infrastructure etc
I would argue that if Qantas sold Jetstar, or someone else had started a Jetstar-equivalent rather than Qantas, the end is even closer for Qantas mainline...
While sure some routes have been given to Jetstar, I suspect a well capitalised LCC would do/would have done far more damage, far more quickly.
The only solution is to get QFs cost base down - and this is not just wages, it is outdated inflexible work practices, massively inefficient levels of management,, as well as particularly internationally some things to level the playing field - depreciation rates, airport charges and infrastructure etc
27/09 re free trade vs Fair trade. What is "fair" is always in the eye of the beholder.
I keep getting this mantra about Chinese coolies in rags and working on dirt floors undercutting Australian workers conditions.
The reality is that most Chinese factories are far more modern than anything Australian and they are filled with the latest high tech gear operated by very well educated Chinese. That is the source of their cost competitiveness.
Every company I have seen calling for "fair" trade is invariably badly managed with a history of under investment in technology and people.
To put that another way, we both know that if Qantas was competently managed, invested in its people instead of outsourcing and operated a better fleet (B777, B787 for example) it could command a premium in the marketplace as it once did.
To put that yet another way, back in the 1970's and early 80's there was nothing I liked better than boarding a Qantas B747 at LHR, FRA, etc. hearing a happy Australian accent from the crew and being handed a VB without having to ask, however that level of service is now gone.
As for selling Jetstar, yes, Qantas would find the same expereince as BA sell for chickenfeed and watch the buyer make a killing. It's a very common occurence because it is axiomatic in business that a Board and senior management can only be good at running ONE business.
That is why the "Qantas Group" is such a lousy rotten unmanageable structure - the whole is less than the sum of its parts. The Board and management is constantly being forced to divide its time between Jetstar, Qantas International, Qantas Domestic, Qantas Link, Jetstar Asia, Jetstar Japan, etc., etc. Thus NONE of the businesses get the time and mature consideration each one deserves.
We learned in business economics 101 that this is why conglomerates always fail - their share price is always less than the broken up asset value of the businesses.
If the Qantas Board really believed that a Low cost carrier was needed, they should have invested in the floating of a seperate public company - with its own Board and investors, that was totally at arms length.
I keep getting this mantra about Chinese coolies in rags and working on dirt floors undercutting Australian workers conditions.
The reality is that most Chinese factories are far more modern than anything Australian and they are filled with the latest high tech gear operated by very well educated Chinese. That is the source of their cost competitiveness.
Every company I have seen calling for "fair" trade is invariably badly managed with a history of under investment in technology and people.
To put that another way, we both know that if Qantas was competently managed, invested in its people instead of outsourcing and operated a better fleet (B777, B787 for example) it could command a premium in the marketplace as it once did.
To put that yet another way, back in the 1970's and early 80's there was nothing I liked better than boarding a Qantas B747 at LHR, FRA, etc. hearing a happy Australian accent from the crew and being handed a VB without having to ask, however that level of service is now gone.
As for selling Jetstar, yes, Qantas would find the same expereince as BA sell for chickenfeed and watch the buyer make a killing. It's a very common occurence because it is axiomatic in business that a Board and senior management can only be good at running ONE business.
That is why the "Qantas Group" is such a lousy rotten unmanageable structure - the whole is less than the sum of its parts. The Board and management is constantly being forced to divide its time between Jetstar, Qantas International, Qantas Domestic, Qantas Link, Jetstar Asia, Jetstar Japan, etc., etc. Thus NONE of the businesses get the time and mature consideration each one deserves.
We learned in business economics 101 that this is why conglomerates always fail - their share price is always less than the broken up asset value of the businesses.
If the Qantas Board really believed that a Low cost carrier was needed, they should have invested in the floating of a seperate public company - with its own Board and investors, that was totally at arms length.
We learned in business economics 101 that this is why conglomerates always fail