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Not too sure about the approach bans being across the board at VAA. Initially it was but I thought it was reduced to just the cat II/III LVA. Cant find a reference to them in the standard instrument preparation procedures, just the II/III procedures. FMCINOP, can you point me in the right direction before my next check
Approach bans only applicable to CAT II/III ops, and in the UK work something like this:
An aircraft may not continue an approach below 1000 AAL if the IRVR/RVR is below the absolute minima for that approach (as determined by the CAA). The reason being that individual companies/acft/pilots have their own minima depending on recency, equipment etc.
ATC will advise the pilot and request intentions - they can't enforce the ban - and will not prevent the acft from landing. A MOR (ESIR) will be submitted for the CAA to follow up.
All this from 5 years+ memory, I'll check the UK regs. Of course what CASA decide to do in their isolationist wisdom is anyone's guess!
An aircraft may not continue an approach below 1000 AAL if the IRVR/RVR is below the absolute minima for that approach (as determined by the CAA). The reason being that individual companies/acft/pilots have their own minima depending on recency, equipment etc.
ATC will advise the pilot and request intentions - they can't enforce the ban - and will not prevent the acft from landing. A MOR (ESIR) will be submitted for the CAA to follow up.
All this from 5 years+ memory, I'll check the UK regs. Of course what CASA decide to do in their isolationist wisdom is anyone's guess!
Last edited by RAC/OPS; 31st Jan 2013 at 10:20.
I would think its up to each Australian operator to specify their own procedures in their Ops Manual which is approved by CASA as part of their AOC requirements.
Therefore you will have to follow your own manuals and not just CASA.
Each could and probably will be different.
My HK company does just that, as approved by HKCAD.
Therefore you will have to follow your own manuals and not just CASA.
Each could and probably will be different.
My HK company does just that, as approved by HKCAD.
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10.23.8.1
AWIS is the only time it's at pilots discretion due to the nature of the measuring device, however the Captain must still be as sure as possible a successful approach and landing can be made?????
I think an A1 re-write of this may be on the way. VB (or VA NOW) aircraft not even permitted to try an approach (ILS, VOR, GNSS, NDB) with rapidly moving and changing WX and diverting whilst other operators give it a go and get in!
AWIS is the only time it's at pilots discretion due to the nature of the measuring device, however the Captain must still be as sure as possible a successful approach and landing can be made?????
I think an A1 re-write of this may be on the way. VB (or VA NOW) aircraft not even permitted to try an approach (ILS, VOR, GNSS, NDB) with rapidly moving and changing WX and diverting whilst other operators give it a go and get in!
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Fmcinop, rewrite done in December I believe (snuck in like block level cruising). Only applicable to Cat II/III approach. Common sense prevails. 11.3.6 mentions approach ban, however you are spot on with your reference.
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