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Jetstar CEO Interview

Old 11th Sep 2012, 10:07
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Jetstar CEO Interview

Abbreviated interview with the new Jetstar CEO talking about her move into the role and how she plans to balance work and family, and how she wants more women in the engineering and pilot ranks.

The family thing whilst a move in the right direction is probably in the wrong industry. Aviation is 24/7/365 and I take it that the work flexibility won't be extended to those at the coalface. Given that Jetstar pilots have been bounced around the country on the whim of an accountant it will be interesting to see how this stuff will be received given many of us make numerous family sacrifices to be in this industry.

tv.afr.com - Video - - The Australian Financial Review

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Old 11th Sep 2012, 11:14
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God help us if she is one of those compulsory male/female ratio types. The only thing that achieves is women being hired to make up numbers; very demeaning. There are hundreds of incredible women pilots who are woking so hard to be recognised for their ability and professionalism, who will have the rug pulled out from under them if they become part of some ratio.

As for lifestyle, well she needs to spend a few weeks in the life of aircrew to see how much of a lifestyle wrecker her airline is. I hope she has the ticker to face the facts, lead by example and address the lifestyle issues of her employees as well as her own.
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 11:32
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The family thing whilst a move in the right direction is probably in the wrong industry. Aviation is 24/7/365 and I take it that the work flexibility won't be extended to those at the coalface.
That's right. That's what she negotiated from the start with Joyce. If what she says is true, then she will be relying heavily on others to pick up the slack at the times she picks and chooses for family reasons.
While this is VERY fortunate, and I have to say commendable to put the family first, it clearly shows the lack of judgement Joyce has when selecting a CEO for Jetstar.
I don't think this is a "must have a woman" thing or a control thing. I think it shows Joyce's decision making process is continually flawed at critical times. There MUST have been other candidates with their hand up for this that were equally skilled and able to provide more commitment.
He gave her a couple of months to think about heading up an organisation, meaning "I have plans for you" and then offered her the big one knowing her limitations due to family commitments. Even waited for her to talk it over with her husband whose predictable response was "What! you didn't take it straight away!
I don't think that there are many jobs in this world that you can show self doubt at the interview and still get the job.
On the surface,I think that she is capable of doing a great job of CEO if she was more committed, but if she wasn't prepared to make the sacrifices and at least turn up for the Roadshow presentation, then less than 100% is not good enough.


What were you thinking Alan Joyce?
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Old 11th Sep 2012, 13:23
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Originally Posted by AEROMEDIC View Post
What were you thinking Alan Joyce?
My guess is that they needed a fluffy family cuddly CEO. Someone who is going to soften the media criticism when the jetstar figures start to unravel over the coming year.

It still floors me that Joyce got away with blaming it on Bruce and Gurney
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She has had MASSIVE soft media coverage the last few weeks - puff pieces like this one.

Why remains to be seen but I would suggest it is an image manipulation thing ie. "Jetstar (and the QANTAS group) love families", before everyone gets the shaft.
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Aahh, what exactly is a "compulsory male/female ratio types"?

Have you ever seen one of these in business in Australia?
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The compulsory ratio for male / female in my bed is one to one.

Although some seem to "bugger up" a simple thing like that.....

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Show up to work and the flight is delayed.

Phone call to manager: "Hi, capt here, sorry, got to pick the kids up from school, sooooooo"

Leaders demonstrate leadership through participation and example. She sets the example, we should all follow her lead.

Then I think about Capt Al. We're gagged on social media on what we can and can not say. Yet, on the world stage, he can bag it out all he likes. That's logical..
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I have seen it in two companies where some one in HR has made specific requests for more employment of female pilots, "we don't have the right mix". So in answer to your question, yes.
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This whole thing of work life balance is fine, but for a company to come out in this way while they have been accused of all sorts of improper work place arrangements, flogging the troops until they drop on their feet and continue to seek ways around employing Australians is just plain hypocritical. Shows breathtaking arrogance and a level of them/us that has rarely been seen on such public display before.

The reality is that this all could have happened while any of the execs slaved away at the computer at home until 3am so why make it an issue in the public domain???
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so why make it an issue in the public domain???
Bingo. So what is QF saying by putting several fluff pieces, about the jetstar CEO, into the public domain?

There is always a reason.
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Bingo. So what is QF saying by putting several fluff pieces, about the jetstar CEO, into the public domain?
Maybe 'We're a great employer and love our staff (the senior ones, anyway, not those smelly people in the PPE ) and their kiddies and puppies, not big bad guys like those nasty unions say we are'? Or maybe; 'We're not really a boys club run by Dixon, Singo, Clifford and the ol' school tie brigade like the nasty media tell you! Look at our new Onestar CEO! She's foreign and female!'

I hope she has the ticker to face the facts, lead by example and address the lifestyle issues of her employees as well as her own.
+1. It would also be interesting to know whether she has always subscribed to the family first notion, even while working her way up the corporate ladder. In many companies middle managers work horrendous hours and are expected to be surgically attached to their phone/emails 24/7. Never mind family time, for many aspiring corporate types meal and sleep time seem to be a privilege, not a right.

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When someone is 'balancing work/life' someone else is picking up the other end of the 'work/life balance.' The work still has to be done. By whom? Extra assistants?
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The working hours are superb. Isn't she fortunate that she isn't a duty manager at a port with no curfew, not having to work 14 hour days. And isn't she fortunate she doesn't have to spend up to 20 hours as a crew member on one of the typically delayed stinky international bogan flights?
And to think, Elaine apporached her and offered her a multi million dollar gift horse and she said 'oh, please, no thanks, I simply couldn't'! PONY POOH!!

And here is the kicker. Who gives a flying fistful of monkey vomit whether she is male or female! She is the CEO of Lamestar and she will act in the same manner as her predecessors - Focus on personal bonuses, staff cutting, outsourcing, destruction and pillage, just to fill her own pockets. That's the QF Group mantra. That's an iron clad gaurentee.

As for the surname, that's a 'tasteful' name indeed. Anyway Jane, welcome aboard your own personal cash cow, stick by Elaine and he will show you where the deepest end sof the trough are located. I give her maybe three years, but she will make enough $$ to last hersel a lifetime.
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Can we please get over Alan's sexuality and the fact her name looks like Hard Licker?

Two threads on this topic have been closed because the debate descended to this puerile level of undergraduate behaviour.

This discussion is relevant because of the hypocrisy shown by those in executive management preaching the "work-life balance" mantra in the press while increasing the demands on the time of those who work for them while cutting jobs and, as a direct consequence, increasing the pressure on the families of ordinary workers.

That is the issue here and calling Alan Joyce "Elaine", or sniggering like a schoolboy at the name Hrdlicka, adds nothing to the debate and undermines any argument you may try to present.
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Well said that person!

DirectAnywhere,

Well said!!!!
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This discussion is relevant because of the hypocrisy shown by those in executive management preaching the "work-life balance" mantra in the press while increasing the demands on the time of those who work for them while cutting jobs and, as a direct consequence, increasing the pressure on the families of ordinary workers.
Nail hit square on the head.
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Class society is alive and well in Australia . CEO 's of big companies are the new upper class and with that their belief system is based on their entitlement to say and do as they please !
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With respect TM, they are just catching up with the political class.
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