Forstaff Avalon

[Jethro Gibbs]

borro

Will people look to secure employment in BNE Qf base.
No such thing as secure employment at BNE Qf base I understand anything new will be contract type work with either Chandler Macleod Aviation or ALG not Qantas .
I understand ALG may already have knocked Graeme Sharman of Chandler MacLeod's Aviation Brisbane office out of the game completely although he wont confirm it maybe someone can confirm its ALG . I doubt whoever it is will have the conditions or Pay to make it worthwhile cost wise unless your in live Brisbane alreadty .

Will there be QF staff redundancies In the next round ?
Who knows those who work for Qantas are dreaming if they think they are safe this includes ex Forstaff that are now Qantas getting the Qantas Position is going to mean nothing in the end .

[genxfrog]

Bagus, where have you been hibernating? I believe the Unions have been demanding answers from Qantas and Forstaff in relation to Avalons future. Forstaff say they don't know anything because Qantas won't tell them, and Qantas won't provide any answers because they couldn't give a stuff about Forstaff or workers at Avalon. The Avalon experiment has served it's purpose and now Qantas is aiming at offshoring anything that could be done at Avalon.
As far as Governments acting to force Qantas to do HM in Australia, that's never going to happen. The Shortens, Albanese's, Gillards, and others won't interfere even if they could.
Time for us to obtain gaming venue qualifications or security licences.

[Arnold E]

Time for us to obtain gaming venue qualifications or security licences.

Or........Stand up and be counted.!!

[Jethro Gibbs]

Or........Stand up and be counted.!!

How The unions are stone walled at every turn by a company that takes the simplest issue to FWA or the Courts its Game Over .

[Bagus]

No fight no win,write to ur local member,to the PM,ACTU and make them hear ur voice,stop sending aircraft offshore .ALAEA and all other union should organize nationwide meeting at all levels to make the media and government listen,that aircraft engineering jobs under threat.

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

Simple question (and probable answer): What was the cost differential?

Good question Romulus. The answer may surprise you. The 747 reconfig contract was put out to tender first. The bidding was between Avalon and Haeko. At formal meetings we were advised by management that the Avalon bid was $200m, Haeko $195m, so bugger all difference in price. Quality would be far superior at Avalon. I say this because in the past Haeko have sent Qantas aircraft back to Avalon with defects that they were incapable of fixing.

We were never told about the price difference for the 380. I suspect this is because the price was so close that they couldn't not put the work at Avalon. These reconfigs did not need a hangar but to put the lies into perspective, they continually fabricate figures regarding the cost to carry out 380 maintenance. eg, they said a hangar would be at least $120m. I got a quote for the same hangar, $16m or 30 fully tooled and ready to use.

Qantas lie. In case you didn't catch that - Qantas lie.

If the A380 reconfigs were being done over there in avalon it would have meant the other work going offshore.

No it wouldn't. They just laid off 100 or so people at Avalon. This occured around the same time that the 380 work started in Manilla. It was a perfect fit to do in Australia.

I think all the UNION should get together and lobby the government and force Qantas to do heavy maintenance jobs here instead off shoring.Act now before it is too late.

Firstly, some unions are better connected to Government than we are, I would love thir support to lobby the Government. I haven't got their support. Our union has been in the office of every relevent MP in Cbr to lobby for just this. I have taken them the hangar quotes and told them the whole story. They couldn't give a stuff. They all tell me that they don't believe Qantas management, none of them have the balls to do anything about it.

It makes me sick to see turncoats like Combet and Shorten do anything Qantas want them to do. I will be voicing my outrage at this p!ss poor outfit come next election time. Thinking of moving to SA so I can vote for Nick Z.

[gobbledock]

It makes me sick to see turncoats like Combet and Shorten do anything Qantas want them to do. I will be voicing my outrage at this p!ss poor outfit come next election time.

Agreed. Combat and Short-one make my stomach turn. They are far from what Labor used to stand for. My Grandfather was a steel worker, bridge builder and a bloody good fighter as well as staunch Labor supporter however it is best that he rest in peace for if he was around in the past 15 years he would be mortified. These so called Union Labor Minister's are nothing more than whipped footstools. Pathetic.

Thinking of moving to SA so I can vote for Nick Z.

Now you're talking. The good Senator is building up quite a following for himself, namely because he is one of only a handful of Politicians who have retained their testicles, and the Senator seems to have a giant set. I hope he runs for PM, he would surely anihilate the Carbon Queen and the Slugger?

[halfmanhalfbiscuit]

Fed Sec and GD,

This book is worth a read.

Peter Oborne - The triumph of the political class

[Graeme Sharman]

Not so fast

I understand there is much to still be discussed, decided and announced in regards to Qantas maintenance in QLD. And it is the nature of those of us in the aviation industry to want answers as soon as possible. But I would like to point out that just because answers arent available when you want it, doesnt mean that the outcome is the worst case scenario.
Chandler Macleod Aviation in Queensland was established in May this year (when I came onboard), and is growing from strength to strength. Good things take time.

[Arnold E]

Chandler Macleod Aviation in Queensland

Yeah, well they are well known, who the hell are they?

[Jethro Gibbs]

Yeah, well they are well known, who the hell are they?

FORSTAFF By another name one in the same

[Arnold E]

How The unions are stone walled at every turn by a company that takes the simplest issue to FWA or the Courts its Game Over .

Jethro, google Ark Tribe and tell me how you cant win, you guys keep tell everybody what you cant do, how about thinking what you can do.

Bagus has at least not been whiging about what he cant do.

[Bagus]

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We are calling for:

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SO WHAT HAPPEN TO THIS ALLIANCE,looks like they are asleep now

[ALAEA Fed Sec]

I just wanted to point out that the ALAEA has nothing to do with this little alliance.

[AEROMEDIC]

Graeme Sharman

So, what answers are you getting and what answers are you giving?

What do you see for the future?
(no pun intended about your surname)

I have to say once again that when it comes to industrial relations, communication and genuine engagement with your staff is everything,

[genxfrog]

There is that "other" Alliance that includes a Union who's National Secretary is also the National Vice President of the ALP. I can smell a pre-selection being locked in on the back of his media exposure in recent times. That's one of the problem with Unions these days. Anyone who claims to be a Trade Unionist whilst being a member of the ALP at the same time is a hypocrite and a liar.

[Jethro Gibbs]

Chandler Macleod Aviation in Queensland was established in May this year and is growing from strength to strength.

Doing What Exactly has anyone seen anything apart from a Large Resume collection .

[qf 1]

Qantas Engineers' Alliance,set up by the same dog that allowed Sydney HM to be shut down because he was going to increase his membership numbers at Avalon,didn't give a rats about the Sydney families that had been paying membership for yrs

[Jethro Gibbs]

Another nail in the Avalon facility's coffin

October 19, 201212:00AM The Australian
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[Jethro Gibbs]

@StevePurvinas Any journo want an exclusive story on Qantas planes flying around with parts missing? pm me if you don't have Chairman's Lounge membership.

So why not just cut the Journos out of the picture and put the story out there the Journos seem to be very selective in reporting Avalon is a good example the public read the local paper and think there are jobs there by the thousand which we know is far from the truth.