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Old 4th Oct 2012, 12:30
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Qantas has sought quotes from Air New Zealand and Singapore Airlines to take on heavy maintenance work on 737s and 767s..

So the Question is exactly which work are they getting Quotes for that's missing from this article .

More Avalon jobs at risk as engineers face the sack | thetelegraph.com.au

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Avalons future

Is there any truth to the rumours about pending redundancies at Avalon.
I was always of the belief QF needed to keep the base operative for the next 3 to 4 years to back up the Bris Vegas.
Can anyone tell me how many B747 QF operate.Does Avalon survive as long as there is a certain number in service?
It certainly is becoming a hard industry to keep a job in.
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There have already been redundancies forstaff and Qantas the end is near for all .
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If I understand correctly there have been a few QF staff who have opted for VR at this point but no forced QF CR

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That is wrong
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I should of put a ? at the end of my last post.
What sort of numbers are we talking concerning QF CR and when did this take ?
Jethro please be assured I am not looking to post misinformation.I am hopeful to learn the facts from people who know.
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If your looking for a job at Avalon its not going to happen .
As for the facts Qantas and Forstaff have no F^&K*&^ idea they already messed up the numbers months ago even the Forstaff manager was sacked .

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Interesting story in the news today about future international ops out of Avalon. Mr Fox's dream might be coming to fruition. International freight hub feeding his truck company. Not a bad coup if it comes off.
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Qantas and Forstaff will be long gone from Avalon by time that ever happens.
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I agree with Jethro here. I believe Qantas have already decided that they want Avalon closed. It makes too much sense to keep it open.
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Once qantas leave Avalon and loose this workforce they will not get them back and if other carrier decide to use Avalon as a hub to fly out ,qantas will loose its monopoly here,when there is opportunity to grow qantas tend to go opposite,Once Air Asia,Tiger,and Scoot gets in and new rail link build,u can say goodbye to jetstar and qantas.
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Ok so if I understand correctly most people who have any real knowledge of the AVA Base believe it will be shut.
Would I be right to assume then that the remainder of B747 work and BNE overflow will end up off shore. Do they wait till the next bird flu scare to announce it.
Jethro. Thanks for your input. Do you believe there will be QF staff redundancies In the next round ? and yes obviously there's no employment prospects down there.
? Will people look to secure employment in BNE Qf base.
I know for a fact they have not been able to push as many staff from Tulla up there as they had hoped.Interestingly the Alaea leadership conveyed at a meeting a few months back that they hoped BNE base would provide some security for those who were prepared move
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Fedsec,

If you believe the remaining work for Avalon is to be moved offshore, have you taken this up with Qantas?
The facilty at Avalon need not be shut down prematurely if this is the case and I believe that Qantas HAVE to consult the ALAEA before moving any work offshore.
If you have discussed this with Qantas, what were their intentions?

It just seems to me from this thread that people who work at Avalon don't have much info, are concerned about their future and are looking to unions to tell them what is going to happen and when.
All of this creates a situation where engineers are not working at their best and can affect the quality of their output, thereby a less safe environment and a less safe product.

My info at this point was that end of November was the time, but could be extended to late January, however it seems now there is indecision about these dates due to Qantas's changing circumstances. Hmmm...
This is starting to smell like they don't know either, which is not a help to anybody.
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The Qantas attitude of late has been less of consultation, more of notification and if you have a problem with it, feel free to take us to court.

It's called Qantas Change management 101.

There was no reason why the A380 reconfig's currently underway in MNL couldn't of been done in AVV.
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Originally Posted by 600 ft-lb
There was no reason why the A380 reconfig's currently underway in MNL couldn't of been done in AVV.
Simple question (and probable answer): What was the cost differential?
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There was no reason why the A380 reconfig's currently underway in MNL couldn't of been done in AVV.
If the A380 reconfigs were being done over there in avalon it would have meant the other work going offshore.
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Of course MNL is cheap,even doing a heart surgery or dental treatment is cheap overthere,would the government start sending patient over there.
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would the government start sending patient over there.
Probably, if it wasn't them or their family or friends ( if they have any)
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QF have 12 A380 and 19 B747 aircraft,and all of these will require big checks coming and like 747 still have major chks going on and the A380 by next year will start to undergo major chks,don't u think that all these can be done in Australia and most ideal place in Avalon,where they have the perfect infrastructure and experience workforce,the government instead of building a rail link there can create more jobs if they build a Hangar that can accommodate the 380.I think all the UNION should get together and lobby the government and force Qantas to do heavy maintenance jobs here instead off shoring.Act now before it is too late.
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Of course MNL is cheap,even doing a heart surgery or dental treatment is cheap overthere,would the government start sending patient over there.
Many people are choosing to do just that of their own volition.

Hip replacement waiting lists here in Aus are absurdly long and the surgery will knock you back around $75K all up if you want to pay for it.

On the other hand if you are happy to go to an expat hospital in the Philippines then you're done for about $12.5K.

Or if you want a mouth full of "new" teeth Aus rates will tap you for the best part of $15K or you can head over to Manila and get it done for around $1500.

Medical tourism is booming for exactly that reason. Dubai, Thailand, India, Philippines all have a burgeoning market in women wanting boob jobs, men wanting bigger penises, both sexes wanting whiter brighter teeth and tinier tummies.

So Bagus, the answer is YES, it is clearly an option. Sooner or later I expect Aus health insurers to give all patients this as an option.
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