Qantas Checked Bags, Staff Travel
This is slightly off topic. I was using staff travel to fly up to brisbane recently. (Managed to get seat 1A, only passenger in business class 
). The self check in counter asked me for my QF frequent flyer points card number. Has anyone tried to see if it works on staff travel
Could of possibly made a few thousand frequent flyer points.
). The self check in counter asked me for my QF frequent flyer points card number. Has anyone tried to see if it works on staff travel Could of possibly made a few thousand frequent flyer points.
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Originally Posted by TL
Feeling engaged are we people?
It is unnecessary really to require a dedicated desk for sub-load etc. Just line up like every one else...
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Guys not wanting to be a pain but take the staff travel discussions to qrewroom... probably not the best show putting it on here.
I've tried the ff number before on both duty and staff travel it shows up as a non-status credit flight but registers that you flew.
I've tried the ff number before on both duty and staff travel it shows up as a non-status credit flight but registers that you flew.
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Sarcasm
Guys ...............
My post was in response to "sierra5913" posting.......
Bank staff don't get discounted home loans ?
Holden employees don't get staff pricing on new vehicles ?
State transit employees don't get free public transport to / from work ?
Coles staff don't get staff discount at Coles stores ?
Senior bankers don't get annual bonuses ?
Need me to keep going ?
ST
So, to be clear, I was asking our dear friend sierra5913, rhetorically, if he was aware that many groups of employees do actually get some form of staff discount.
ST
Bank staff don't get discounted home loans ?
Originally Posted by Skystar320
Know of someone who works at a bank and they do get a discount, rather crummy one...
Originally Posted by sierra5913
I can't believe staff travel discounts still exists.
The corporate world has largely done away with fringe benefits 10 years ago.
The corporate world has largely done away with fringe benefits 10 years ago.
Originally Posted by Me
Bank staff don't get discounted home loans ?
Holden employees don't get staff pricing on new vehicles ?
State transit employees don't get free public transport to / from work ?
Coles staff don't get staff discount at Coles stores ?
Senior bankers don't get annual bonuses ?
Need me to keep going ?
ST
ST
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The Staff Travel Department of any large airline handles all aspects of Staff Travel, not just discounted leisure travel. There are significant requirements for managerial staff flying to meetings, engineers going to outports, crews re-positioning and more - many of which need to be accommodated at short notice.
In addition, the more enlightened airlines have the facility for staff to book their tickets on line, thus doing away with extra staff and the wasted time involved in having to visit a company office to lodge applications.
If managed properly, there are benefits and savings to both company and staff.
I would think you'll find staff travel is a cost to Qantas.
FBT, a department with staff just for staff travel etc...
FBT, a department with staff just for staff travel etc...
In addition, the more enlightened airlines have the facility for staff to book their tickets on line, thus doing away with extra staff and the wasted time involved in having to visit a company office to lodge applications.
If managed properly, there are benefits and savings to both company and staff.
T-Vasis
My comment was reference to other large airlines (BA, Emirates come to mind), that have a dedicated check-in ROOM let alone a counter. Although these airlines fly to more than half a dozen destinations - pretty soon QF Staff Travel will be useless anyway.
Having to mill around a check-in counter nervously waiting for a boarding pass is not a good look for commercial pax IMO. Anyone who has flown out of Sydney in the afternoon period when 3 Jumbos/A380s depart within an hour will know it's possible to have in excess of 100 standby staff at the counter, like seagulls waiting for a hot chip.
My comment was reference to other large airlines (BA, Emirates come to mind), that have a dedicated check-in ROOM let alone a counter. Although these airlines fly to more than half a dozen destinations - pretty soon QF Staff Travel will be useless anyway.
Having to mill around a check-in counter nervously waiting for a boarding pass is not a good look for commercial pax IMO. Anyone who has flown out of Sydney in the afternoon period when 3 Jumbos/A380s depart within an hour will know it's possible to have in excess of 100 standby staff at the counter, like seagulls waiting for a hot chip.
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In reply to some earlier posts, you are beholden to the ground staff at the service desks/check-in.
On more than one occasion I have seen and complained about check in staff upgrading those not entitled to a higher class of travel or even uplifting staff with a lower travel category.
When staff travel works properly,it is a very good condition of employment.When it doesn't,I wish I had bought a full fare. But hey, that's the game.
On more than one occasion I have seen and complained about check in staff upgrading those not entitled to a higher class of travel or even uplifting staff with a lower travel category.
When staff travel works properly,it is a very good condition of employment.When it doesn't,I wish I had bought a full fare. But hey, that's the game.
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It is Now
"pretty soon QF Staff Travel will be useless anyway."
QF Stafftravel is a farce.The best function of this facility is interline.
I haven't travelled QF for years.I use interline carriers exclusively.Greater range of destinations,better product,better check in,treated like a human being etc.etc etc.
QF Stafftravel is a farce.The best function of this facility is interline.
I haven't travelled QF for years.I use interline carriers exclusively.Greater range of destinations,better product,better check in,treated like a human being etc.etc etc.
So, businesses have at their disposal a built in customer base, their own employees, that generally remains loyal to the firm products, Many employers dangle the carrot of discounted products for their staff and it's still seen as a valuable fringe benefit that you don't get taxed on. As most would agree it's not just about the wages or salary, is it? Anyway Qantas is recognizing that there is still definitely money to be made from employee travel! See below from the latest QF Friday Flyer
***HAVE YOUR SAY – CONFIRMED STAFF TRAVEL POSSIBILITY Qantas Staff Travel is considering a new complement to their existing product offering. For travel on Qantas-operated domestic and international services, the additional product would enable the purchase of confirmed Staff Travel tickets. Staff Travel is asking employees to register their interest via an online survey from 30 March to 13 April. The survey will determine if the project to implement Confirmed Staff Travel will proceed. Read additional information and complete the survey by visiting "link deleted" ****
***HAVE YOUR SAY – CONFIRMED STAFF TRAVEL POSSIBILITY Qantas Staff Travel is considering a new complement to their existing product offering. For travel on Qantas-operated domestic and international services, the additional product would enable the purchase of confirmed Staff Travel tickets. Staff Travel is asking employees to register their interest via an online survey from 30 March to 13 April. The survey will determine if the project to implement Confirmed Staff Travel will proceed. Read additional information and complete the survey by visiting "link deleted" ****
To be honest, I'm surprised this didn't happen years ago.
Firstly, I'd be surprised if the confirmed seats are available more than a few days before the date of departure and only then if the flight looks to have sufficient seats likely to be commercially unsold.
As a regular commuter, I rarely fail to get a seat on a flight of choice - albeit that choice is carefully made after studying seat availability and a few other factors.
This process will, in effect simply adjust unload categories and generate more revenue.
Like most I always purchase an upgradable ticket as it gives me a few more chances to get a seat on the flight. For that same reason I will now often have to buy a 'confirmed' seat at apparently significantly greater cost, in order to retain the same relative onload category.
The same number of Staff passengers will be listed, they'll just be onloaded in a different order and Staff Travel will rake in a few more dollars.
Firstly, I'd be surprised if the confirmed seats are available more than a few days before the date of departure and only then if the flight looks to have sufficient seats likely to be commercially unsold.
As a regular commuter, I rarely fail to get a seat on a flight of choice - albeit that choice is carefully made after studying seat availability and a few other factors.
This process will, in effect simply adjust unload categories and generate more revenue.
Like most I always purchase an upgradable ticket as it gives me a few more chances to get a seat on the flight. For that same reason I will now often have to buy a 'confirmed' seat at apparently significantly greater cost, in order to retain the same relative onload category.
The same number of Staff passengers will be listed, they'll just be onloaded in a different order and Staff Travel will rake in a few more dollars.
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In the "TN" days you could nominate one flight a year as your "Confirmed Annual Leave" trip (remember those staff-travel application forms, about the same size and shape as a cheque?).
The available "Confirmed Annual Leave" flights were controlled by Yield Management, sure they were lunch-time on Tuesdays flights and not 5.00pm on Fridays, but as long as you picked the right flights your annual leave trip was stress-free!
I really don't think that's asking too much!
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The available "Confirmed Annual Leave" flights were controlled by Yield Management, sure they were lunch-time on Tuesdays flights and not 5.00pm on Fridays, but as long as you picked the right flights your annual leave trip was stress-free!
I really don't think that's asking too much!
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The confirmed staff travel should have been offered years ago - I suspect you would need to pay more for a confirmed Y seat (still upgradable if space available on the day) but still, that would give them more income and make it more attractive. I know people love the upgrade but just getting on is the majority of the stress.
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Staff Travel Onload question
Can anyone enlighten me. Re QF staff travel procedures.
If I have a lower Onload to Y class (eg Y42) to someone else's (Y40) but i have a higher J upgrade code (J15) to that someone else (J17) and say for example there is only one J class seat left on the whole flight ie no Y seats left THEN who does the computer (or check in staff) allocate that J seat to? To the better Onload person OR me with the higher upgrade code but lower Onload? Confused. Cannot get a straight answer from anyone. Some say one thing some say the another Anyone know for sure? T
If I have a lower Onload to Y class (eg Y42) to someone else's (Y40) but i have a higher J upgrade code (J15) to that someone else (J17) and say for example there is only one J class seat left on the whole flight ie no Y seats left THEN who does the computer (or check in staff) allocate that J seat to? To the better Onload person OR me with the higher upgrade code but lower Onload? Confused. Cannot get a straight answer from anyone. Some say one thing some say the another Anyone know for sure? T
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It seems to be a similar scheme to the BA hotline tickets, which is a set percentage off the commercial tickets(including sale fares) - commuters generally purchase hotline tickets in advance & still gain the FF points from it. Its a great system & works well.
Wonder if it will be the same or similar OR just be a set percentage discount not available on red-edeals. Time will tell....
Wonder if it will be the same or similar OR just be a set percentage discount not available on red-edeals. Time will tell....
Nunc est bibendum
timos, there are a couple of options available to the check in staff.
1. Upgrade commercial pax into J class, person with higher onload category in Y gets on.
2. Onload staff passenger who can take advantage of upgrade category. So if you have a J upgradeable and they don't then you get on in this case.
In your exact example, the person with the higher onload gets on board first. They'd also get the upgrade because you're not on board the aircraft and so they're not competing with anyone for the seat. They unload everyone they can first and THEN they look at the upgrade. The staff travel website actually goes through this example I think.
If option 2 above is in play, it depends on the day, on the check in staff member, whether there are commercial pax suitable for upgrade, etc. The only thing I can tell you for sure is that the onload category trumps all else. After that is done we start squabbling over who gets moved closer to the front.
1. Upgrade commercial pax into J class, person with higher onload category in Y gets on.
2. Onload staff passenger who can take advantage of upgrade category. So if you have a J upgradeable and they don't then you get on in this case.
In your exact example, the person with the higher onload gets on board first. They'd also get the upgrade because you're not on board the aircraft and so they're not competing with anyone for the seat. They unload everyone they can first and THEN they look at the upgrade. The staff travel website actually goes through this example I think.
If option 2 above is in play, it depends on the day, on the check in staff member, whether there are commercial pax suitable for upgrade, etc. The only thing I can tell you for sure is that the onload category trumps all else. After that is done we start squabbling over who gets moved closer to the front.
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Thanks Keg,
Thought it was so. I guess it cannot be all ALTEA determined and there is a certain amount of input from ground staff as per the scenarios you mention. And having the higher upgrade code is virtually useless unless you have a good Onload code!
Cheers
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Thought it was so. I guess it cannot be all ALTEA determined and there is a certain amount of input from ground staff as per the scenarios you mention. And having the higher upgrade code is virtually useless unless you have a good Onload code!
Cheers
T