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Old 11th Nov 2011, 10:07
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AND a story for the punters a year ago

Sky hero Captain Richard de Crespigny is a guardian angel

CAPTAIN Richard de Crespigny has a long list of distinctions.
He is widely feted as being Qantas' best pilot - one of the most experienced in the skies - and is a seasoned captain on the A380.
Now he can add hero to his list of achievements
All that good stuff he enjoyed in the press a year ago...

Now.... so sad to read today's story above. spare me the... setup

it's a media blitz.

Sky hero Captain Richard de Crespigny is a guardian angel | thetelegraph.com.au

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Old 11th Nov 2011, 10:10
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Geeeeez. I hope some of you sad sacks have a good solicitor and deep pockets.
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Poetry??? What kind of a limp wristed nancy boy is he?
As for signatures, the only future signings will be done in blood !!
I hope he enjoys solitary confinement because that is what he just earned, he will have no support for the remainder of his QF career (except support from the pond scum at Mascot). Yep, a future filled with distrust from fellow pilots, rimmed food, no support from peers and a genuine '89 warmness' that will see out his remaining QF days.
Can't wait to see him pop up on Gillards front bench along with Combet, Shorten and all the other parasites who have sold their souls to the devil.
Nauseating to say the least.
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Hey everybody, Ken the plane spotter is back!
I'm betting Ken has one of those autographed poems, and if he doesn't he will be lining up for one ! And what a surprise, Ken is banging on about solicitors once again !! Bring it on, I dare ya.
Ken, I bet you are desperately awaiting the day you hear your idol Richards voice crackle over your scanner as you watch him steer his beautiful dugong over Sydney harbor one warm morning?

RDC, a hero to be sure. Not in the eyes of your colleagues anyway, sad day indeed.
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 10:29
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It'd be nice if the level of vitriol directed at Richard ratcheted down a quite a few notches. I don't condone his statements but some of the stuff here is WAY over the top. There is a better way to deal with this crap than what has been demonstrated thus far.
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AH Freedom of speech, freedom of association.

You may not agree with Richard but you must respect his right to express a view amongst his peers. The Constitution guarantees this right of expression.

But just maybe you are all too polarised to respect the Constitution and have become slaves to rhetoric and character assasination.
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While building the new A-380,
some worry, "That plane's much too weighty."
But the gang at Airbus,
don't kick up a fuss,
"cause the new Trent's so powerful, matey!"
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 10:39
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There is a better way to deal with this crap than what has been demonstrated thus far.
As an observer, it doesn't seem over the top to me, like what?? just as well this is not the 60's or 70's, then you may have seen something to complain about. ( I didnt in those days)
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 10:43
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The Constitution guarantees this right of expression.
Hmmmm, not sure that it does actually.
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Sorry T28D, the Australian Constitution does not confer the right to Freedom of Speech. We take it for granted that it is one of our 'rights', but such rights do not exist, at least not explicitly. Back to Constitutional Law classes for you... ot
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Utter garbage. Even if that was true, what would be the point? QF management are under no illusions as to the majority opinion of their pilot employees. Whilst they are pretty good at wasting money on full page ads and other expensive PR, they don't need to waste money on private investigators.
I thought I said it as a joke maybe I should have used a smily face instead of a grin
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Is this a joke? Are grown men who have put so much effort into their career so set in their ways that they will happily carry on like high school girls and rubbish anyone who doesn't believe in the same thing as them? I'm at the start of my airline career and started flying with the hopes to finally get into the cockpit of the red rat, now i see those who I wanted to be like carry on like this, honestly publicly saying that someone who agrees with the company over AIPA on this issue that he will be signing his name in blood and we will alienate him etc, i thought we lived in a civil society??
I know he spoke out against the rally etc etc, but theres got to be a line, obviously theres two sides to the story. I know i'm about to get hammered over this post because im going to whinge about the current situation. But honestly both sides have legitimate claims for the future, but is constantly making obscene comments about you're employer really going to make a difference? Or will it just cause a divided community in the workplace not between union members and management, but pilots, engineers and ground staff themselves as some are against the management, some don't care and some agree? Now come from a ground crew back ground and on speaking a lot people on ground I know for a fact that A LOT are not in favour of the action of the IR. So either way is continuing with the public display from both sides even going to cause a positive outcome? or will it internally destroy QF period. Leaving offshoring and down sizing an easy source for current management (or their replacements) - either way Australian business will offshore certain tangible aspects to be competitive. Whether the australian staff stay or go will be up to them.

Now let the barrage of insults begin... A pint to the most creative.
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Keg, you state:

It'd be nice if the level of vitriol directed at Richard ratcheted down a quite a few notches. I don't condone his statements but some of the stuff here is WAY over the top. There is a better way to deal with this crap than what has been demonstrated thus far.

I agree 100%, but what do you expect from this site?

You are obviously a QF captain, probably within a few years start date of the gent in question, probably know him at least in passing.

Dont waste your time trying to calm the mob - they are only interested in trashing anything and everything QF and bugger the truth.

Some things are better kept in house IMHO,

Besides, unless your life depends upon what goes on on this site, then almost no-one really cares what the usual gang of bottom dwellers carry on with here.

Regards

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Old 11th Nov 2011, 12:44
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Im sure the Capt in question is a very honorable man, he realises the qf spin on international losing so much money (or was that transferring it to j*).

He will do his bit and gladly pay back 60% of all salary he has earnt at qf to help the airline in its hour of need and be the first Capt to transfer with his family to the new Asian base.

Good luck in Asia Capt.

I can recommend the mee goering ayam.
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Old 11th Nov 2011, 12:46
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So,how long before the "Effigy" burning BBQ's begin?
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Jealousy is a curse! You guys who were obviously not around in 1989, have no idea what you are creating now. Not to worry, lots of jobs available overseas when you finish destroying Qantas.
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Thanks Hot Dog. Perhaps you could point out to me (I am a little slow) what is being creating now and how it relates to 1989?
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I had a conversation about the fact that QF are screwed as they are so fragmented with a current QF mate.
He agreed that all they will never back any SERIOUS industrial action to protect the careers of the younger guys.
They just don't give a damn about you as they have already had 20 plus years making big money and will be happy for you all to go off to Jetstar or Red bloody SIN.
I probably fall into the category of "crusty old senior captains" as I've been with Qantas longer than the gent in question but I totally disagree with LR 3's statement. All of the communication that I've had with my peers throughout the EBA negotiations has been total support and solidarity which is why I find it incredible that RDC has chosen to go public with his views. The vote for PIA was 94% and after Joyce's over-reaction in grounding the airline, I believe the level of support for AIPA would be close to 100%.

I am not far off retirement but I will fight the current management all the way to secure futures for those pilots who still have a long career ahead of them.
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Perhaps RCD stated the unsayable? Maybe the Emperor has no clothes?
Someone brought up Emirates a few pages back. Don't compare the salaries (they make much less though don't pay tax) compare the work conditions.

Those guys work incredibly hard. Much more productive than us and their rosters suck. Mandatory Reserve blocks twice a year regardless of seniority unless in training.

Don't go to the sandpit. Stay here and negotiate something that is realistic.
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Calm down Hot Dog, as a 89er I know how these blokes feel, they feel let down by one of their own, they know that divided they fall, and as you well know that is exactly what happened to us, and it is a shock to the system when it happens. Mate with mate or so you thought. The gentleman in question aired his views to a journo, that hurts, the gentleman in question does not agree with most of his fellow pilots, that hurts to, but there will be plenty more like him, you know that to, though most wisely keep their thoughts to themselves. For him like those in 89 that were perceived to go against their fellow pilots, life can be hard, you need a lot of strength, a lot of support and you end up dreading going to work, as the flight deck becomes a fridge (and it has nothing to do with A/C packs) and it is lonely up the track, and you often resort to just talking to C/C if they are not aware of your position. Believe me I have seen it all. And it never goes away, only last year I witnessed at a retired pilots reunion, four blokes having a beer, a shall we say non supporter walked up, the beers went on the table and four blokes went in four directions, leaving our hero on his own. Childish perhaps, but you had to be there to realise it was not to them. He has chosen a difficult path, he is also entitled to his opinion, degrading him as a pilot is not wise, even if you are filthy, and entitled to be so, he has set a path for himself, and I for one am glad I never had to travel that path, I saw the results for those that ventured on it, its a painful way to live and work, mainly because Australians believe in mateship, sticking together in times of war and stress, they don't take kindly to those that they perceive have let them down. It will be interesting to see how he travels that path.
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