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Thats perfect!! Roo's post above is able to elegantly neutralise QF's spin on
Qantas pilots always crew Qantas operated flights.
If the term BRANDED was emphasised in negotiations, and to counter what Wirth is saying, they are left with egg on their face.
Qantas pilots always crew Qantas operated flights.
If the term BRANDED was emphasised in negotiations, and to counter what Wirth is saying, they are left with egg on their face.
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For a classic example of what we are up against in the unwinable battle for truth in journalism , have a look at this piece of Union bashing rubbish published today in the SMH.
Loyalty no longer its own reward
Paul Sheehan:
Sydney Morning Herald columnist
October 24, 2011 Opinion
Read more: Loyalty no longer its own reward
I will get the ball rolling in pulling this story apart by referring to the first two paragraphs:
Almost a year ago I flew Qantas internationally. Mistake. The aircraft was old, the entertainment system completely non-functional, and the steward in my section was perfunctory (the adventure had died for him years before). When I pushed my seat back for sleep, it barely moved. There was nothing faulty about the seat. It's what you get on Qantas economy long-haul. A stiff neck and a zombie arrival.
I might have treated this as an aberration, a hazard of travelling long-haul economy class, but the experience turned out to be the beginning of the end of my years of loyalty to Qantas. It has since become obvious that Qantas staff, from the pilots down, regard passengers with contempt. Every time they are in dispute with management over pay and conditions, Qantas customers are used as cannon fodder.
Sheehan's grievences are valid . However he should look no further than QF Management (as opposed to QF staff) being responsible for the following
1)The old aircraft 2) The crap Rockwell Collins IFE bought on the cheap 3)The steward perfunctory , the "adventure had died long ago" Why wouldn't it have died ? having to continually apologise to livid customers for 1) and 2)
4) The seat barely moving
Yet this is according to Sheehan a problem caused by Qantas staff ! What a laugh ! My sides are splitting!
The article illustrates perfectly the Big End of town being looked after by their cohorts in the media.
Loyalty no longer its own reward
Paul Sheehan:
Sydney Morning Herald columnist
October 24, 2011 Opinion
Read more: Loyalty no longer its own reward
I will get the ball rolling in pulling this story apart by referring to the first two paragraphs:
Almost a year ago I flew Qantas internationally. Mistake. The aircraft was old, the entertainment system completely non-functional, and the steward in my section was perfunctory (the adventure had died for him years before). When I pushed my seat back for sleep, it barely moved. There was nothing faulty about the seat. It's what you get on Qantas economy long-haul. A stiff neck and a zombie arrival.
I might have treated this as an aberration, a hazard of travelling long-haul economy class, but the experience turned out to be the beginning of the end of my years of loyalty to Qantas. It has since become obvious that Qantas staff, from the pilots down, regard passengers with contempt. Every time they are in dispute with management over pay and conditions, Qantas customers are used as cannon fodder.
Sheehan's grievences are valid . However he should look no further than QF Management (as opposed to QF staff) being responsible for the following
1)The old aircraft 2) The crap Rockwell Collins IFE bought on the cheap 3)The steward perfunctory , the "adventure had died long ago" Why wouldn't it have died ? having to continually apologise to livid customers for 1) and 2)
4) The seat barely moving
Yet this is according to Sheehan a problem caused by Qantas staff ! What a laugh ! My sides are splitting!
The article illustrates perfectly the Big End of town being looked after by their cohorts in the media.
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The long-haul A380 pilots are among the best paid in the industry.
According to Qantas they earn 50 per cent more than their peers at Virgin Australia and competing Asian carriers. The pilots are taking industrial action because they want their pay and conditions extended to Jetstar pilots.
Read more: Loyalty no longer its own reward
Sheehan now compares QF A380 pilot pay with Virgins. Only one problem . Virgin don't fly A380 's . Hmmmmmm .......not really a fair comparison but what the heck.When the agenda is to bust the unions on behalf of the Big Boy's Corporate Club why worry about valid comparisons. Waste of time really.
According to Qantas they earn 50 per cent more than their peers at Virgin Australia and competing Asian carriers. The pilots are taking industrial action because they want their pay and conditions extended to Jetstar pilots.
Read more: Loyalty no longer its own reward
Sheehan now compares QF A380 pilot pay with Virgins. Only one problem . Virgin don't fly A380 's . Hmmmmmm .......not really a fair comparison but what the heck.When the agenda is to bust the unions on behalf of the Big Boy's Corporate Club why worry about valid comparisons. Waste of time really.
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Here is a summary by Bernard Keane on Crikey.com:
Essential: Qantas management to blame for dispute | Crikey
Crikey.com Monday 24 October 2011
How can we get this reported in the main stream media?
Essential: Qantas management to blame for dispute | Crikey
Crikey.com Monday 24 October 2011
Essential: meh on the republic, but fired up about Qantas
by Bernard Keane
Voters think Qantas management is mainly to blame for its ongoing dispute with its workforce but don’t support government intervention to resolve it, new Essential Research polling finds. And views on a republic haven’t budged in nearly two years.
Last week Essential asked several questions about voter views of Qantas and its dispute. Around 36% of voters believed Qantas management was to blame for the dispute, compared to 13% who blamed Qantas staff and 37% who said both were equally to blame. Even more Liberal voters blamed Qantas management, 25%, than staff, 22%. Only 24% supported government intervention in the dispute, with 62% supporting Qantas and the unions negotiating a settlement, a view that was remarkably consistent across different voters.
Asked to respond to a series of statements about Qantas, only 21% agreed moving operations to Asia was necessary for Qantas’s future and 61% disagreed; 30% strongly. Almost 90% agreed Qantas should keep jobs in Australia (51% strongly); 73% agreed much-loathed CEO Alan Joyce is overpaid (compared to 20% who thought Qantas staff were overpaid), and 67% agreed Qantas staff had genuine concerns that management should address.
The only positive for Qantas management was that 54% agreed that industrial action was “irresponsible and disruptive”, compared to 31% who disagreed. But on what caused more damage to Qantas’s reputation, industrial action or moving jobs offshore, 62% agreed the latter and only 27% the former.
by Bernard Keane
Voters think Qantas management is mainly to blame for its ongoing dispute with its workforce but don’t support government intervention to resolve it, new Essential Research polling finds. And views on a republic haven’t budged in nearly two years.
Last week Essential asked several questions about voter views of Qantas and its dispute. Around 36% of voters believed Qantas management was to blame for the dispute, compared to 13% who blamed Qantas staff and 37% who said both were equally to blame. Even more Liberal voters blamed Qantas management, 25%, than staff, 22%. Only 24% supported government intervention in the dispute, with 62% supporting Qantas and the unions negotiating a settlement, a view that was remarkably consistent across different voters.
Asked to respond to a series of statements about Qantas, only 21% agreed moving operations to Asia was necessary for Qantas’s future and 61% disagreed; 30% strongly. Almost 90% agreed Qantas should keep jobs in Australia (51% strongly); 73% agreed much-loathed CEO Alan Joyce is overpaid (compared to 20% who thought Qantas staff were overpaid), and 67% agreed Qantas staff had genuine concerns that management should address.
The only positive for Qantas management was that 54% agreed that industrial action was “irresponsible and disruptive”, compared to 31% who disagreed. But on what caused more damage to Qantas’s reputation, industrial action or moving jobs offshore, 62% agreed the latter and only 27% the former.
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Just getting off topic a little bit, but within what's happening. Here's a SMH article about the sale of QF aircraft from back in April of this year. I don't know if it's been posted elsewhere, but here it is anyway.
Fleet for sale as Qantas cuts flights
Here's just a snippet of the article:
"Qantas has also put on the block a two-decade-old Boeing 767-300, which it has described as ideal for conversion to a freight aircraft. That sale is in addition to the earlier-than-planned retirement of two other 767s announced by Qantas last week.
Facing what it described as the ''severest crisis'' since the global financial downturn in 2008, Qantas last week stepped up its cost-cutting efforts to combat high jet fuel prices. The measures include axing managers and cutting domestic and international flights."
This article is from April 4 2011. Alan Milne doesn't need to look at his fleet record to see wich regos are going to be sold. All the classic 737's are being put against the fence as well as the 767's.
These items need to be brought up at the AGM this Friday and made public once again. This regimeneeds to be brought to account and made to step dwn for the mistruths and deceit they are spreading.
Fleet for sale as Qantas cuts flights
Here's just a snippet of the article:
"Qantas has also put on the block a two-decade-old Boeing 767-300, which it has described as ideal for conversion to a freight aircraft. That sale is in addition to the earlier-than-planned retirement of two other 767s announced by Qantas last week.
Facing what it described as the ''severest crisis'' since the global financial downturn in 2008, Qantas last week stepped up its cost-cutting efforts to combat high jet fuel prices. The measures include axing managers and cutting domestic and international flights."
This article is from April 4 2011. Alan Milne doesn't need to look at his fleet record to see wich regos are going to be sold. All the classic 737's are being put against the fence as well as the 767's.
These items need to be brought up at the AGM this Friday and made public once again. This regimeneeds to be brought to account and made to step dwn for the mistruths and deceit they are spreading.
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People don't trust Qantas team: survey
People don't trust Qantas team: survey
October 24, 2011 - 8:39PM
AAP
Australians don't trust Qantas management or their plan to outsource jobs offshore, a survey has found.
The National Essential Report poll shows overwhelming dissatisfaction with the Alan Joyce-led management team at Qantas and their proposed strategy for the airline.
About 67 per cent of those surveyed agreed that Qantas workers have legitimate concerns, while just 13 per cent disagree.
The poll was conducted between October 19 and 23, based on 1017 respondents.
nice counter punch from Captain Woodward
"Alan Joyce and his team have spent tens of millions of dollars trying to convince the public that shifting the airline to South-East Asia is necessary and that Qantas workers are somehow trying to destroy the company," Captain Woodward said.
and
A Qantas spokeswoman said the polling was a union attempt to damage the airline.
"This is more push polling being used by the unions to deliberately damage the Qantas brand as part of their industrial campaign," she told AAP.
People don't trust Qantas team: survey
October 24, 2011 - 8:39PM
AAP
Australians don't trust Qantas management or their plan to outsource jobs offshore, a survey has found.
The National Essential Report poll shows overwhelming dissatisfaction with the Alan Joyce-led management team at Qantas and their proposed strategy for the airline.
About 67 per cent of those surveyed agreed that Qantas workers have legitimate concerns, while just 13 per cent disagree.
The poll was conducted between October 19 and 23, based on 1017 respondents.
nice counter punch from Captain Woodward
"Alan Joyce and his team have spent tens of millions of dollars trying to convince the public that shifting the airline to South-East Asia is necessary and that Qantas workers are somehow trying to destroy the company," Captain Woodward said.
and
A Qantas spokeswoman said the polling was a union attempt to damage the airline.
"This is more push polling being used by the unions to deliberately damage the Qantas brand as part of their industrial campaign," she told AAP.
Sounds like they are getting desperate back in the Q PR bunker..
Good work guys... the week is really hotting up and it's still Monday...just...
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