Moving up to the hold point
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I was being polite and no it is not as simple as that.
It's about movements per hour as we are constantly reminded and it is about time this was addressed.We are talking about the most important aerodrome in Australia in terms of pax numbers.
An international airport allowing 7 seaters to take up slots,you have got to be kidding.
It's about movements per hour as we are constantly reminded and it is about time this was addressed.We are talking about the most important aerodrome in Australia in terms of pax numbers.
An international airport allowing 7 seaters to take up slots,you have got to be kidding.
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Anyway thanks all for derailing my original request... so ....can we all please stop being so scared of the hold line and move up to it please? It won't bite. 
A polite request to Sydney domestic drivers to please when holding short of 16R to please all the way up to the stop line so as to not block or infringe txy B.
All airlines are guilty but I have to say virgin 737 / Jetstar a320 drivers are usually the ones stopping far enough back from the line such that your tail is hanging out over taxiway B. I guess because the most critical taxiway intersections are the ones (f, b3,b4 etc) those operators mainly use.At night it is quite unnerving trying to guesstimate if your infringing bravo or not when I'm taxing north on bravo.
Don't be shy! Move up to the line please!
All airlines are guilty but I have to say virgin 737 / Jetstar a320 drivers are usually the ones stopping far enough back from the line such that your tail is hanging out over taxiway B. I guess because the most critical taxiway intersections are the ones (f, b3,b4 etc) those operators mainly use.At night it is quite unnerving trying to guesstimate if your infringing bravo or not when I'm taxing north on bravo.
Don't be shy! Move up to the line please!
B767's asking 121.7 to ask the aircraft at TWY B4, B3 and F to move up to the holding point is very time consuming as 121.7 has to identify the aircraft then ask TWR (120.5) to ask the aircraft to move up and sometimes this is coincident with an aircraft using the runway for arrival or departure and quite rightly, TWR doesn't ask for this manoeuvre when the runway traffic is passing in front (or about to pass in front).
Much easier if the departure goes right up to the holding point in the first place or 121.7 simply doesn't use B4, B3 if there will be a B767 inbound prior to the departure (hard to do when the departure will be #5 for departure), or B737-800's, A320/321's are sent up to the full length (B1 & B2).
Question to SACL, would be removal of TWY B5 translate to the B4 holding point moving closer to RWY 16R?
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I'm thinking holding lines were moved back a few years ago to give more clearance for A380 ops? It's still a 45m runway but the clearances to the sides are the same as a 60m one.
Just guessing here mind you. It all happened the same time MEL was widened to 60m and somebody said that they couldn't widen the SYD 16R/34L pavement for some reason but they could increase the clearance to the sides.
That's why the issue of bums infringing taxiway B has only been an issue on recent years.
Just guessing here mind you. It all happened the same time MEL was widened to 60m and somebody said that they couldn't widen the SYD 16R/34L pavement for some reason but they could increase the clearance to the sides.
That's why the issue of bums infringing taxiway B has only been an issue on recent years.
....can we all please stop being so scared of the hold line and move up to it please?
