QF to EK on LWOP
Apparently QF wanted better rights to return the crew if required earlier than three Years
I reckon that is bullsh!t though
They probably just stuffed it up
I reckon that is bullsh!t though
They probably just stuffed it up
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Qantas Flight Ops management apparently changed their mind at the 11th hour and wanted to place extra restrictions on crews going to Emirates. 
When the QantasAsia CEO went on TV, Emirates management got a copy of the interview. They probably know they can pick up the 100 plus pilots(sorry Kamikazes) that will be axed from Qantas after the August announcement.
As Wayne Kearns says, "if you have to choose between a f&*^ up, or a conspiracy, it's always the F%$# up".
When the QantasAsia CEO went on TV, Emirates management got a copy of the interview. They probably know they can pick up the 100 plus pilots(sorry Kamikazes) that will be axed from Qantas after the August announcement.
As Wayne Kearns says, "if you have to choose between a f&*^ up, or a conspiracy, it's always the F%$# up".
angryrat, yes, that's simply what QF is telling us. It could be an outright porky pie, or just deliberately misleading and omitting a few slightly relevant facts, eg, it may well be that QF imposed a late condition unacceptable to EK, so EK indeed decided to "no longer accept pilots on a LWOP basis."
Scuttlebutt tonight already is that QF announced the arrangement prematurely before EK was happy with it, so EK subsequently said "Deal's off". THAT is to be verified...... But yes, smelling like QF stuff up leading to EK decision. So typical of QF to try to paint the other party as the culprit though!
I've thought long and hard as to whether it was some sort of industrial game being played against the LH pilots, but I can't see how. I think it's just sheer incompetence on some department's part, likely QF Flight Ops.
At the end of the day, guys can still apply to EK for whatever reasons they want (better promotion prospects, some certainty of employment continuity, a love of desert scenery). ALL that is changed over the weekend is that it's back the way it was: if selected, they will have to produce a letter of resignation from QF.
Scuttlebutt tonight already is that QF announced the arrangement prematurely before EK was happy with it, so EK subsequently said "Deal's off". THAT is to be verified...... But yes, smelling like QF stuff up leading to EK decision. So typical of QF to try to paint the other party as the culprit though!
I've thought long and hard as to whether it was some sort of industrial game being played against the LH pilots, but I can't see how. I think it's just sheer incompetence on some department's part, likely QF Flight Ops.
At the end of the day, guys can still apply to EK for whatever reasons they want (better promotion prospects, some certainty of employment continuity, a love of desert scenery). ALL that is changed over the weekend is that it's back the way it was: if selected, they will have to produce a letter of resignation from QF.
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Years ago...
Get told you have a QF slot with a weeks notice for your GA employer....
Years later....
You have a EK application but within a week Qantas says it no longer avail....
OPS normal
FFRATS
Get told you have a QF slot with a weeks notice for your GA employer....
Years later....
You have a EK application but within a week Qantas says it no longer avail....
OPS normal
FFRATS
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I think the issue here was the 3 year 36K bond that EK require whether one is endorsed or not. It's non negotiable. If QF wanted the lads back earlier than the completed 3 years, then he would be up for the outstanding amount left on the bond for each pilot. Obviously QF would then be out of pocket.
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Talking to 'son of nudist' yesterday the issue was that EK did not realise the amount of discontent such a move was going to cause within its own pilot ranks.
At the moment they can't afford to lose anyone, so they scuppered the deal.
And the other point being that with the big block of redundancies coming as part of QFAsia, they will be able to get the guys and girls they want anyway.
At the moment they can't afford to lose anyone, so they scuppered the deal.
And the other point being that with the big block of redundancies coming as part of QFAsia, they will be able to get the guys and girls they want anyway.
They probably know they can pick up the 100 plus pilots(sorry Kamikazes) that will be axed from Qantas after the August announcement
As has been said here before-EK wouldn't care about any perceived impact within as they have demonstrated many times previously with DEC's, I would suggest this is misinformation from the within the QF camp, probably due to the negative publicity this would generate in conjunction with the PIA just voted for.
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If what CG and the EK recruitment department have done in recent days in any indication of the management style in EK then the twit has done QF pilots a favour!
Shame on you!
Shame on you!
Bigboeingboy. You have no clue! CG has worked his butt off trying to help QF fellas out. This outcome has nothing to do with him. You need to look closer to the QF flight ops department.
So shame on you fella.
So shame on you fella.
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The bottom 100 at QF wouldn't qualify for Emirates unless they are given a dispo or have flown a jet as an FO or Cpt elsewhere.
fearcampaign and Captain Gidday...
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Absolute gold! Priceless. 
But Gidday...your reference to 'blokes' in your hypotheis displays gender bias. So your hypothesis seems to lack 'Wirth'.
Perhaps it could be restated as:
Yep. QF management ar$eclowns are too stupid to organise a conspiracy.
They're having a bl00dy good try at it though!
As Wayne Kearns says, "if you have to choose between a f&*^ up, or a conspiracy, it's always the F%$# up".
Yep. Those blokes are too stupid to organise a conspiracy.
But Gidday...your reference to 'blokes' in your hypotheis displays gender bias. So your hypothesis seems to lack 'Wirth'.
Perhaps it could be restated as:
Yep. QF management ar$eclowns are too stupid to organise a conspiracy.
They're having a bl00dy good try at it though!
Last edited by SIUYA; 12th Jul 2011 at 10:32.
