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Old 12th Mar 2011, 01:21
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Great video. Can I encourage people to share that around on Face book, Twitter etc.

(Stupid PPRUNE for editing book face to be FacePPRUNE the first time. It appears that Twotter with an I also becomes PPRUNE. Fair dinkum, what a joke.).
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Great work Tim. Share this around guys.
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.......and the answer to the question is that Wirthless got the decimal point in the wrong place when she wrote Alan's script.

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Old 12th Mar 2011, 01:52
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It might be time to resurrect 'The Chaser's' version of the QANTAS advertising anthem, which apparently hit a nerve, part of which went, I think:

'I still call Austraalia (fifty-one-and-a-half-percent) hoome...'
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I had not seen that before. F***ing Gold!!!!

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Old 14th Mar 2011, 21:23
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John Laws on radio Monday 15th March

LISTEN UP. John Laws on radio today Tuesday 15th March after the 10 am news. He is VERY interested to hear about the goings on at QF HQ and QF pilots being squeezed out of the flight deck- so here's your chance!
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Media Links to J Laws.

2SM - Listen Live - Sydney's Talk, News and Entertainment Station with John Laws
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Old 21st Mar 2011, 21:16
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Noip,

"No-one is saying QF mainline pilots are any better than any other pilot group from other First level airlines"

and yet your first response to my post was

"Riiiggghhhhttttttt ......."

So if you are not saying that QF pilots are the best then why such a sarcastic response?
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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 01:37
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[QUOTE]The hero of QF32 was the Airbus. Most drivers worldwide would have returned it to terra firma./QUOTE]

Apparantly "the Airbus" EICAM was sending misleading info, requiring intervention by the crew, at times skipping checklist items that they knew would cause further problems, that "the Airbus" obviously did not.

Credit where it's due!
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Old 22nd Mar 2011, 02:28
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Anq, let's review your comments:

Comment 1:

Most drivers worldwide would have returned it to terra firma.
Comment 2:


“As a group are they very well skilled? Yes.”

As are all airline pilots.
So far you've made assertions that 'most drivers worldwide' would have gotten QF32 back on the ground; and, 'all airline pilots' are very well skilled. Whilst we can't really test your first assertion with any degree of objectivity (short of simming it with a representative selection of 'most drivers worldwide') we can only go on subjective arguments.

Given how airline pilots world wide continue to find new ways of pranging perfectly serviceable aircraft I'd suggest that your point 2 is somewhat flawed. Indeed I'd argue that the standards amongst first level carriers are quite similar but that's a very different thing to 'all airline pilots'.
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"Given how airline pilots world wide continue to find new ways of pranging perfectly serviceable aircraft I'd suggest that your point 2 is somewhat flawed. Indeed I'd argue that the standards amongst first level carriers are quite similar but that's a very different thing to 'all airline pilots'."

Air France, Continental twice, American twice, Fedex, UPS. These airlines have all had accidents in the last 2 years. Are they "first level".
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Old 26th Mar 2011, 16:23
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Jossell and Worthless

.......and the answer to the question is that Wirthless got the decimal point in the wrong place when she wrote Alan's script.
GoAnimate - Jossell and Worthless - Qantas pilot - Watch animation

Some evidence that she may have got the decimal point wrong according to this link above.
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 01:40
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You're the one trying to make the point Anqrka, you tell me. It appears from your most recent statement that you're agreeing that QF pilots are better than those other 'first level' airlines that because we haven't done had those prangs AND we've managed to recover some situations which could have gone quite differently. Yet previously you decried that all airline pilots around the world are the same. You can't have it both ways. Either QF drivers are as good as other first level carriers, or all airline pilots are the same. Patently the latter comment isn't true. So would you agree that QF drivers are as good or better than other first level carriers?

You're a strange cat- one who it appears likes to slag out QF drivers at every opportunity. Yet you're strangely inconsistent about the point you're trying to make.
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 02:58
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"RICHARD WOODWARD: People actually accused me of being in 1989. Qantas pilots never went on strike in 1989. We were flying all through that. It wasn't anything to do with us."

Perhaps if you had helped the domestic pilots in 1989 and hadn't flown domestic passengers in 1989 you wouldn't be in this situation now.
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 03:19
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Martin... they didn't unless it was authorised by the AFAP. Get your facts straight before you post nonsense.

and while we are at it.. get a life!
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 04:57
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Oh dear Martin.
Perspective is everything.
The Qantas pilots have survived another 21+ years exactly because they stayed out of Australia's greatest IR disaster.
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 06:26
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Perhaps if you had helped the domestic pilots in 1989 and hadn't flown domestic passengers in 1989 you wouldn't be in this situation now.
Lol. A couple of parts to this one. Kremin has already dealt with one of them. The other issue is one of 'help'. Having spoken to a few people who were on the COM at the time, my understanding is that AIPA tried to 'help' AFAP back then. They told AFAP that they had put the gun on their own feet and were about to give themselves both barrels. AIPAs advice to AFAP was ignored.
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Old 27th Mar 2011, 06:29
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Not all QANTAS pilots stayed out of the dispute; some were in it momentarily as Australian Airlines pilots...then they deserted their mates and went back to work...(or were invited into the country by the Prime Minister) and then they were accepted as QANTAS pilots .

Let's see how the Sky Gods handle the forthcoming stoush; if there is one.

P.S. it might have been an 'IR disaster', however not one of the airlines involved exists today; but I'm still a pilot!

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