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Old 12th Sep 2013, 15:14
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He is largely responsible for the regulatory mess
Jingle,
Completely wrong, the good Dr. has had very little to do with the problems of the stop/start attempts at reform, or the "reform" program.

Remember, he hasn't worked in the CASA legal branch for quite a while. Even when he was there, he played little or no part in the "reform" program. He has been mostly involved with the Sports and Recreational areas, and all the associations involved are actually very happy with his efforts ---- one of the few bright spots in the overall aviation scene.

Any pretense at reform, as oppose to a vast expansion of of highly prescriptive regulations, all criminal law, was abandoned years ago.

As the latest description says: "regulate to the greatest possible extent".

Blame the right targets, and there is plenty of blame to go around.

How does that old military adage about command go: Assign blame, take the credit, shoot the wounded.
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Old 12th Sep 2013, 19:26
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Leadie, your last post has to be a wind up, yes?
If not, you have either lost the plot or a hangar door has recently hit you in the head, your post couldn't be further from the truth
The 'good doctor' is very very much involved in every decision made at Sleepy Hollow.
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Old 12th Sep 2013, 23:30
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004,
On the level of influence he has on the "regulatory reform program", we will have to differ.
I don't query that he is involved in signing off, as part of the hilariously named "management team", and I will give you that he was personally involved in and responsible for one small piece of regulatory change -- that has had a very negative impact on FAAOC holders or applicants, but even that "policy" was pressed upon him.
He does not prepare, or sign off on, the drafting instructions that go to Office of Parliamentary Counsel, and in earlier times, the OLDP at A-Gs. You need another target there!!

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Old 13th Sep 2013, 12:30
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Yep, good point he doesn't ultimately own the reg, but he does sign off on it. If you read the industry papers he has delivered over the years you can't deny he was a driver in the regulatory mess you are in.
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 12:40
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Also, wouldn't it be grand if The Minister for Bad Teeth had been asked about his lack of interest/action on the Senate Report? The IoSS Reason/Quinn will be following up no doubt. I hear 4 Corners are also keen. It's a shame the media runs aviation safety in this country.
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 21:22
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Discussion about power, glory, faceless men con't.....

A succession of DAS/CEO/Head Hocho's/Big Chief's/Chief Executive Nupty, whatever silly titles they wish to apply at Fort Fumble, have been hoodwinked, manipulated, ever so gently coerced and craftily steered, obviously by somebody who is intelligent, articulate, quiet and diplomatic and has obviously worked there for a long time and been granted reasonable powers for a long time as well, a 'seemingly' nice guy. Could it be a sinister force from the dark side, some kind of wizard or a magic practising priest?
I wonder, no I muse, no I hypothesise as to whom that person might just be........

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Old 15th Sep 2013, 21:27
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Trying to remember who is there these days, but I have in mind that there is someone else in the CAsA senior management group that has been around for some time. Can't remember his name but shorter, glasses, and baldish with a smile like a gerbil. Keeps a low profile but was in charge of developing standards when I was last involved and likes the odd bit of travel.

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 02:37
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My gift to Frank

Franks Burden, there are a number of trough dwellers working at Malfunction Junction who have gerbil like smiles and the personality of a sea serpent, so it is hard to decipher just who you are referring to?
However, just to jog your memory and without implicating these gentlemen in any way, shape or form, some of the more long term executives at Fort Fumble are;

- Mr Boyd took his seat at the Fort Fumble round table in 1999,

- Mr Farquharson commenced his tenure at the gravy train of choice, CAsA, in 1999,

- Mr Aleck was awarded employment at the not so robust regulator in 1993, and toddled off to ICAO from 1998 - 2003 for a stint at the 'Holy Grail of aviation troughs'.

In all they have had approximately 43 years worth of combined service at Sleepy Hollow. Each has been involved in some capacity with the regulatory reform program as well.

Footnote: Although Mr Aleck spent 5 years at ICAO it could be debated that he had no affiliation, contact, influence or dealings with CAsA during that time period. If you were to add those 5 years to the sum total you would get 48 years of combined CAsA service.

One could hypothesise as to how much time has been spent indulging in trough like piggery during those 48 years, but that is not the role of a mere aviation peasant, aka IOS such as myself to scrutinise, calculate or quantify.

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 08:20
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004, wasn't this discussion had in the inquiry or estimates?

It was like a visit to school head. Claims they weren't there at time, doing different jobs. Bigger boys from different school made them do it but they ran away.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 12:06
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004 it was the first one you named.

He was the senior manager responsible for the new regulations for some time when I came across him. Surprised he is still there given the snail pace of the regulatory program!!!

But then again, when the rice bowl is continually replenished there is no need to hurry the meal.

So, who is the responsible senior manager for the regulatory changes today?

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 12:56
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Halfmanfulltimtam, correct you are sir. Please award yourself 2 chocolate frogs for remaining awake in class
Mr Farquharson said he was over in the West, Mr Boyd (the one with the Gerbil grin) said he had only just started in 1999 so he wasn't responsible, and Mr Aleck said it wasn't him because he was in Montreal!
Funny thing is that if CAsA accurately documented and maintained all project files, expenditures, minutes from meetings etc etc (as they expect industry to do) you wouldn't have so many people ducking for cover, it would be an easy process to access TRIM or that other silly program that a mate of one of the DAS trio introduced, and review who made what decisions and should be held accountable.
Anyway, 25 years and a quarter of a billion dollars later and we have jacks#it to show for it. No wonder certain individuals work for CAsA, no proper organisation would hire them with that mess on their CV.

Herr Frank, you burden me by asking many questions my friend. But hey, I like you, you seem like a nice guy and a decent hard working IOS member
So, during the senate inquiry many robust questions were raised about the (lack of) regulatory reform program, asked by the senators. Fort Fumbles mountain was removed and as a result exposed they now were, so a sacrificial lamb was required. The three old codgers handed the poison chalice to the hooded one and poor Hoody was sent packing to Canberra. The steaming reg reform mound of manure now had a new owner. But alas the hooded one jumped over the rails of the S.S Titanic knowing that the buzzards were circling.
But who owns the task now? Good question as I have no idea at all dear friend. I am not part of the iron ring. The three old fella's aren't capable of doing it, Herr Campbell isn't doing it, I believe Herr Cromarty way have been sized up for the job but found to be inadequate, so maybe 'he who has a gerbil like grin' will be tasked with the insurmountable task? Perhaps a crusty old FOI or Flyingfiend will step up to the plate and throw their hand in the ring? Maybe R.Collins or the drunk will return? Or maybe a SSI or Cabin Inspector will achieve what no other before them has been able to do - Regulatory reform!!!

Stay tuned for the next chess game move c/o the iron ring and GWM!

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Old 16th Sep 2013, 13:35
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Thumbs down Mr R. C

004, you can't be serious. He was up to his neck in Trans Air and it continued with Trans AirPNG until his mate Les Wright (RIP)ended up in a fatal in PNG landing an aircraft not suitable for the strip. PNG CASA FOI also onboard (RIP).
Not good enough for the job of fixing this sorry state, in my view.
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Old 16th Sep 2013, 20:04
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Jinglie old son, my comment about R.C was tongue in cheek. I can assure you that as long as the Screaming Skull remains king of the CAsA castle Mr R.C would be flat out being allowed in the car park. Lets just say he isn't on Mr Angry's Christmas card list But then again, who is??
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I'm out of the country for a while and wondering if we have a new Transport Minister yet? Cheers
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Nationals leader and deputy Prime Minister Warren Truss will take over as Transport Minister.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 09:20
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Halfmanfulltimtam, correct you are sir. Please award yourself 2 chocolate frogs for remaining awake in class
Mr Farquharson said he was over in the West, Mr Boyd (the one with the Gerbil grin) said he had only just started in 1999 so he wasn't responsible, and Mr Aleck said it wasn't him because he was in Montreal!
Folks,
If we are talking about the same Senate performance --- there was one who was sitting there, who was around when the ATSB recommendation turned into a revised CAO for fuel requirement for "remote islands".
And who, in my opinion, either did know, or who has suddenly developed a very selective memory
Cast your minds back ------ ??
Tootle pip!!
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 09:53
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The gerbils are grinning.

Well there you go Leadie, we do agree on some things. Good stuff mate.
Indeed there was an individual who had sudden amnesia during the inquiry, but that was then and this is now. No action will be taken against him, why? Because you need to be accountable to be held to account. And CAsA employees are not accountable!! Now whether that is totally accurate under the guidelines of Australian law I really don't know, really don't care either to be honest.
All I know is that most of the issues that have taken place over the decades, regurgitated year after year and then done to industry and its members over and over and over yet again is due to nil accountability on behalf of the regulator.

CAsA = selective memory indeed.
And on that note I shall also end with a Tootle Pip!
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 11:25
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Anyone bothered to ask Skull why he has not replied to the Senate??
Would be an interesting reply!!
I imagine his response would be along the lines of what he usually tells you
And none of that can be printed.

It's a stalling tactic and all part of the game. He doesn't give a toss and everybody knows it. March 2014 is approaching and its bye bye Mr Skull. His ticket for the Styx River boat has been endorsed, receipts have been accepted and he is awaiting his ride.
Approximately 5 months and counting.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 16:44
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Up-into-the-air
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Anyone bothered to ask Skull why he has not replied to the Senate??

Would be an interesting reply!!
Should be an estimates before March. Interesting to see the rrats in action again. Also Abbott talking about cutting public sector back.

Casa briefing has yet to mention the senate inquiry report.
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Catch up.

Sunny # 1476 - "As I've said elsewhere, lobby who you like but press the jobs, growth and investment buttons each time and present as a positive person with good ideas to make the country better."
Just cruising back over some of the sensible discussion on various ideas for "lobbying"; (Sunny, Creamy etc). I just wonder if that whole idea is superfluous and all that needs doing is for the Senate committee to continue on, to demand satisfactory response and answers to their report, recommendations and conclusions. Provided the 'promises' made by the 'new' gummint are honoured all should be revealed as a natural progression, despite the recent hiatus. The questions still hang, the responses are overdue and the groundwork done. I don't see Fawcett et al forgetting about it Perhaps the IOS need only gently, patiently and persistently press for the 'short' inquiry into regulatory reform and be provided a Commissioner. The cat is well and truly out of the bag, the trick now is to catch the little bugger before it sneaks away with Mums budgie.

004# 1500 "His ticket for the Styx River boat has been endorsed, receipts have been accepted and he is awaiting his ride."
Hell will have to wait a while longer for the shade of McComic; there are some very strict rules (writ by Minnie and revised by Gobbles) on our group transport policy. Most of the damned just turn up, hop on and we cart 'em over. As a rule they are a fairly self absorbed lot not given to being fussy about who else is inboard; but, there have been several objections raised. The only way we can provide transport for the passenger concerned is by a special 'one off' charter which no one seems to want to pay for; or swimming lessons with Gobbledock, which for some reason the passenger seems loathe to accept....

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