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BB stated at Jetstar "we" have an FRMS.
Do they actually have one? Is it currently applicable to Cabin Crew? As it came up when discussing cabin crew fatigue on MEL-DPS-MEL duties.
Do they actually have one? Is it currently applicable to Cabin Crew? As it came up when discussing cabin crew fatigue on MEL-DPS-MEL duties.
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This morning proved just how inept these two are at running an airline, cost cutting and lies, thats all they have.
It was good to see Sen Heffernan state to AJ that "he could talk under cement", a clear indication that they believed they were being treated with contempt. The sh#t that came from BB mouth was unbelievable, especially in regard to the basing of pilots offshore and in regards to wages and condition and pilot hours from graduates of the cadet program. At the end he had a look on his face that even he couldn't believe the crap that had just came out of his mouth. Lets hope that these two clowns get what they deserve, SACKED, and hopefully prosecuted for unthruths told during their short but eye opening appearance. It was also a shame to see PW sitting next to these two during this circus, a good man being set up for failure.
One thing is for certain, one recommendation from this enquiry will be 1500 hrs min for RPT ops as they will follow the lessons learnt and the lead taken in the US.
It was good to see Sen Heffernan state to AJ that "he could talk under cement", a clear indication that they believed they were being treated with contempt. The sh#t that came from BB mouth was unbelievable, especially in regard to the basing of pilots offshore and in regards to wages and condition and pilot hours from graduates of the cadet program. At the end he had a look on his face that even he couldn't believe the crap that had just came out of his mouth. Lets hope that these two clowns get what they deserve, SACKED, and hopefully prosecuted for unthruths told during their short but eye opening appearance. It was also a shame to see PW sitting next to these two during this circus, a good man being set up for failure.
One thing is for certain, one recommendation from this enquiry will be 1500 hrs min for RPT ops as they will follow the lessons learnt and the lead taken in the US.
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John, the transcripts come in later, here's a link to the transcript page, check back over the next week or so - Inquiry into Pilot training and airline safety including consideration of the Transport Safety Investigation Amendment (Incident Reports) Bill 2010. Here's the link to this committee's home page.
Later I will post a link to enable you to download a series of files with the audio from this afternoons hearings that I am currently capturing from the live stream.
Later I will post a link to enable you to download a series of files with the audio from this afternoons hearings that I am currently capturing from the live stream.
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Sorry to disappoint, I only managed to capture from ~13:20. Unfortunately the T&C of the broadcast include:
So, mixing it up would be contempt of Parliament.
There will be full transcripts available in the near future from the committee page.
The Commonwealth Parliament makes the broadcast material available on the following condition :
The material shall not be used for:
political party advertising or election campaigning
satire or ridicule
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The material shall not be used for:
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There will be full transcripts available in the near future from the committee page.
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Unfortunately I didn't get to listen to the broadcast, a lot of posts are ranting about lies and contempt but little provided in the way of examples. Anyone able to provide a more balanced commentary?
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You'll be able to ask Alan Joyce, Bruce Buchanan and some of the others shortly cause the Committee should be calling CONTEMPT when they get some contradictory primary evidence and the AFP will be knocking on their doors!!
Not even the excuse of I must have mis-understood. - It was blatent!!!
Not even the excuse of I must have mis-understood. - It was blatent!!!
D!ckheads
If Stalin or any of the more unsettled types here really believe that lies have been told or the Senate mislead, it surely is incumbent upon them to make a written submission refuting the alleged lies and then making themselves available to be orally examined by the Senate Committee.
Oh, I forget that this is PPRUNE where character assassination, scant regard for the truth, and unbalanced emotional argument is par for the course.
Oh, I forget that this is PPRUNE where character assassination, scant regard for the truth, and unbalanced emotional argument is par for the course.
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Hey Ken
It is already in the email inboxes of each of the members of the committee. but they are busy listening to CASA at the moment.
Do not be surprised if AJ and BB get called back.
It is already in the email inboxes of each of the members of the committee. but they are busy listening to CASA at the moment.
Do not be surprised if AJ and BB get called back.
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Ken,
Bit hypocritical to call people dickheads then complain about character assassinations don't you think?
As an example seeing you asked so politely, there is plenty of information in the public arena with respect to pay and conditions of jobs within Jetstar and how they are moving jobs overseas, not just pilots, this is a fact. Now go and watch BB response to the question.
When asked about future plans and (s)tragedies to grow these jobs offshore, directly asked by the way. What was the response?
When asked the actual FLYING hours a cadet pilot joining J* has? remember flying hours, not sim time, what was BB response??
How about the response to cabin crew training in regard to first aid? The fact is cabin crew are required to have a first aid certificate as a requirement before they join, the QF group do not provide this training. so what was BB response to the question regarding the dead passenger, diversion to Darwin and the training standard for first aid of the questioned flight attendant? True or misleading? Tell me wise one.
I can go on and on but I won't, all that I will say is that you actually go and do some research before you embarrass yourself again.
Bit hypocritical to call people dickheads then complain about character assassinations don't you think?
As an example seeing you asked so politely, there is plenty of information in the public arena with respect to pay and conditions of jobs within Jetstar and how they are moving jobs overseas, not just pilots, this is a fact. Now go and watch BB response to the question.
When asked about future plans and (s)tragedies to grow these jobs offshore, directly asked by the way. What was the response?
When asked the actual FLYING hours a cadet pilot joining J* has? remember flying hours, not sim time, what was BB response??
How about the response to cabin crew training in regard to first aid? The fact is cabin crew are required to have a first aid certificate as a requirement before they join, the QF group do not provide this training. so what was BB response to the question regarding the dead passenger, diversion to Darwin and the training standard for first aid of the questioned flight attendant? True or misleading? Tell me wise one.
I can go on and on but I won't, all that I will say is that you actually go and do some research before you embarrass yourself again.
Heffernan calls Qantas chief a 'bomb maker'
Mr Joyce laughed off the bomb maker comment. (AAP: Sergio Dionisio)
Firebrand Liberal Senator Bill Heffernan has called the Irish-born head of Qantas, Alan Joyce, "an old Irish bomb maker".
The comments were made as Mr Joyce appeared in front of a Senate estimates hearing in Canberra today.
Senator Heffernan initially asked if Mr Joyce came "from a long line of Irish bomb makers", before later calling him one.
"Mr Joyce if the power was yours, you know from being an old Irish bomb maker, if you had the choice, what would be the ideal pilot training?" he said.
The Qantas head laughed off the comment, and Senator Heffernan made several other Irish jokes throughout the hearing.
The New South Wales senator is no stranger to controversy, with a long list of public faux pas to his name, including calling Julia Gillard "deliberately barren".
