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Old 24th Jul 2010, 05:30
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Just in time for the deregulation of WA routes.
Deregulation???? Hmmmm, someone hasn't read the contracts...
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Old 24th Jul 2010, 06:18
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This has been rumored in the crew room for awhile. However, to be let known of this by the press/media than your own manager/company is such dis-engagement.

I suppose it is all too common nowadays. If you want to know what the company is doing, read the newspaper. If you want BS, talk to your managers.
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Old 24th Jul 2010, 06:33
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Completely agree bubble.head, but the rules for publicly listed companies mean that 'price sensitive news' must be announced to the ASX or be in the public domain before it can be internally distributed.
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Old 24th Jul 2010, 09:00
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Just thinking out loud,

The 717 contract will be up for renewal as the Q400's arrive, about the right number as well.
Just remembering out loud....

Warren Seymour addressing new hires in 1995 & advising that he'd signed a deal to be launch customer of the DH8-400 and that they'd replace the 146 on the Airlink contract.

Lotsa water under the bridge since then.
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 06:50
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someone hasn't read the contracts...
someone doesn't give a ****...

I suspect the WA public given the choice of 21st century equipment would take it. By the sounds of it (according to those that read contracts) they won't get the choice.
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 07:32
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as if people know what is a brand new aircraft or not.

Props=bad
Jet=good

Thats all they know and thats all they care
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 09:15
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as if people know what is a brand new aircraft or not.

Props=bad
Jet=good

Thats all they know and thats all they care
Isn't that what Virgin thought when they took on QLink with the E170/190? From what I can see timing/ price/ and connections seem to be the only real differing points for either airline. And a Q400 can afford to operate on a very light load over the short distances that the EJet can not.
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 11:12
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The key is in the connections. If a corporate (mining) traveler can connect from Geralton/Albany/Esperance/wherever onto a mainline flight to the east coast or international without having to pick up their bags and just sit in the Q club all afternoon then that's what they'll do. Red tail = ff points = lounge = bums on seats....
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 12:19
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Roger, good point. Maybe you should track down the latest Skywest press release.
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Old 25th Jul 2010, 22:49
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Props=bad
Jet=good
Dodgy, that doesn't apply to people in regional areas, IMHO!

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Old 26th Jul 2010, 01:37
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XR press release - the one that announces ONE direct Kalgoorlie - Mel flight per week? Hardly a dent in demand there.
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 03:02
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Smile

Sorry, should have said asx announcements. I don't know how to post links on my iPhone but it goes along the line of codeshare with VB and mentions things like XR = Velocity = Lounge = bums on seats.
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 03:31
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Ahh - this one:
Skywest Airlines Ltd (SKYW) | InvestEgate

Good on them, I admire the XR operation and have only heard good things from friends working there.

Still, all the more reason for QF to get its act in gear and offer a rival connecting service around regional WA.
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 03:43
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Info on the upcoming changes to WA's regulated air services is here if anyone is interested:
Aviation Framework

Of note:
- Geralton will become deregulated
- There will be limited competition on four protected routes between Perth and Albany, Esperance, Learmonth and Leinster.
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 04:24
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doesnt apply to regional areas? Try getting a turbo prop from hedland to perth. For towns like GEL, if VB or XR put jets in, they'll choose them over the dash any day.
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 06:29
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as if people know what is a brand new aircraft or not.

Props=bad
Jet=good

Thats all they know and thats all they care

This argument was brought up when the Embraer jets were introduced, the reality has been completely different. The turbo-prop operators have not lost any passengers to the jets and in some situations the additional advertising from VB has led to increased passenger loads for all operators.

I was not a fan of the Q400 when they first started on the scene but over the last six months QLink has used them to great effect on all sorts of routes across the east coast. These include many serviced by jets and they seem to be popular with the passengers.

The low break even load factor also allows greater frequency which in turn generates more passengers and if the flights are full its even more profit.

Qantas backed a winner with the Q400 and are now reaping the reward, the additional orders are further proof they work. Havn't seen a further order for more E170s.

doesnt apply to regional areas? Try getting a turbo prop from hedland to perth. For towns like GEL, if VB or XR put jets in, they'll choose them over the dash any day.
Geraldton to Perth is a 1 hour sector for the Q400, similar to Sydney - Albury/Canberra or Melbourne - Launceston, which are all competing well with jets.
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 08:03
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as if people know what is a brand new aircraft or not.
Let me assure you they have an inkling during the middle of summer! Maybe Gillard should get the "cash for clunkers" happening for the aviation sector as well!
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 09:36
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How many more pilots will they need?

Depending on the demand, I'd expect a minimum of 20.
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 09:48
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I suspect if we were all honest and considered what really drives which airline we use then the type has nothing to do with it.

I don't like these LCC's, I have no choice where I live so I have to use Jetstar. I hate flying with them, I hate supporting them financially but I do because I have to, what's more I am flying more often than I ever did as a pax simply because of price.

I would put money on the fact that the majority of pax do not even look at aircraft type when the book with, let's say QF, when they board they probably make the usual derogatory comments re small aircraft and then after the flight, are pretty happy with what they got.

It's pilots who have stars in their eyes, through a weird sense of ambition believe a turbo prop will not survive. Fact is they do, they are and they probably will for some time. Wasn't that long ago and it, was the only way around the world.
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Old 26th Jul 2010, 10:18
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Paul Damian,

word on the street is 70 Commands next year!!!
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