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Old 26th Mar 2010, 09:08
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Any idea of F/O Salary?
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Old 26th Mar 2010, 10:58
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Not bad coin
Thats huge money, glad to hear they are paying them right.
God help us all.
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Old 26th Mar 2010, 11:45
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I really like Prrune, people can hind behind the computers and act all macho.

Before you got on about 22 previous operators, paperwork ladie lar de dah taking it back to birth. If people look at the trail you will see that most of 'these' operators are under a WET lease, with the aircraft operated by one carrier.
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Old 26th Mar 2010, 12:11
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muII

Don't confuse the stating of facts with negativity. Reality often hurts in this industry, but it is reality none the less.

Skystar 320

Huh? All I can understand from your post is that it just might be rooted in a very poor understanding of Australian regs. Are you suggesting the aircraft won't be registered in Australia when you talk of wet lease? If it is not to be registered in Oz that opens up a whole new regulatory can of worms. If it is to be Aussie registered it needs a CofA and a CofA cannot be gained within this country unless every part on the aircraft can be traced back to birth. A new aircraft - no problem. The older the aircraft the more difficult (and sometimes impossible) it can be. No records from birth means the part must be changed to one that can be traced. This is not Lardie dah, it is fact.

I hope it works for them, but it is a long road from a lick of paint to operating a passenger service.
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Old 26th Mar 2010, 16:05
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mjmjkg, mate your the modern day, glass fuse,four stripe, its all about me me me, ygen tosser that should be hunted out of the industry,

Best of luck to Sky West. Im sure you like many many others around the world will be just fine.

Expedite both ways.

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Old 27th Mar 2010, 04:38
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evilc, you fail to understand or see which point I am trying to point out to those less obvious.

You mention 22 operators, yes so what the stats show... but have you seen that one operator has leased this aircraft to airlines under a WET / ACMI lease agreement to various other operators.

Secondly, if you look closely Skyservice Airlines / Airtours International Airways / MyTravel Airways / MyTravel Lite / Thomas Cook Airlines all come under one banner, one operation group!

I fear that you wish, for whatever reasons that you are wishing this project to be doomed...
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Old 27th Mar 2010, 06:44
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Originally Posted by Icarus2001
God help us all.
Well, I obviously have no idea what the industry rate is for an A320 C&T Captain, thus my question of how this compares with Jetstar and Tiger.

Why are there so many DH's on PPRuNe?
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Old 27th Mar 2010, 08:13
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Ahh you see smiling monkey, Australian aviation being the bitter and jealous circus that it is, brings out the inner DH in all of us under the cloak of anonymity. If $215K is the base then that I think is a bit over the money compared to Jet*, VB and Tiger C&T - which is a good thing!!! Finally upward pressure on T & Cs.
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Old 27th Mar 2010, 10:01
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Fantastic Skystar A320! That is good news for the inspection process around the aircraft's 17 years of operation. I now understand your point in your previous posts - thank you. This should reduce the process to weeks, not months.

However, that does not change all the other elements that must be addressed prior to the issue of the CofA and subsequent AOC in the Australian regulatory environment. I standby my remaining assertions. Don't expect to see this aircraft flying in service for XR before the end of the year.

I also hear that the union will only allow 2 direct entry captains for the two most senior positions, yet the two experienced chaps offered positions have graciously declined. The lack of a flight crew experience base can scuttle plans just as quickly as incomplete records, ageing aircraft rules or engineering capabilities.

I have no axe to grind and no wish for the project to be doomed. I am just stating the facts of what is required to turn a nicely painted airframe into an operational aircraft in Australia. I have never been employed by Skywest and have no need to be in the future.
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Old 27th Mar 2010, 11:11
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Roxy,

It's not 'huge' money by industry standards, but in the ballpark for what's typically being paid in the sheltered workshop (down-under) these days which is such a pity as I love grass much more than sand.

Good on them for going with the minibus, still fond memories of flying over the big coat hanger etc in them.
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Old 28th Mar 2010, 06:33
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jq checkies with some ot would be earning close that. Even line skippers would be in the vicinity of 190+ so while its not bad, for the amount of work required its hardly breathtaking
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Old 30th Mar 2010, 06:15
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Good news for XR!

It was good to hear they got to keep their contract with Citic Pacific, which was worth near enough to 10 million for a 12 month period and would say they will get an extension on that as well from what I've heard.

Not sure how true it is but I've been told that the A320 will be used 2/3 days a week PER-KTA-PER and the other flights will be F100's. Think XR is going to be running 10 flights a week in and out of here for Citic alone?

Amazing how far XR has come in 10 years, hell even 5 years ago they weren't half the size they are now...and good to see the mining companies are giving the business to a 'local' WA company.
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Old 30th Mar 2010, 11:01
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Hats are being eaten all over this forum tonight.
Well, it is 4 years late, and will do some hat eating if it's still around in 12 months and/or has sisters.

xr also chose an excellent engine choice with the IAE V2500 !
I doubt they had a choice, but the accountants will be happy, cheap piece of crap compared to CFM

I hope the XR engineer I spoke to was wrong about it requiring an undercarriage replacement soon $$$

One '93 model A320, hope XR got a massive spares kit with it, and whats the back up ? 2 x F100s ?

Back to drinking my 1/2 empty glass of beer
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Old 30th Mar 2010, 12:47
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cunninglinguist,

I know of at least 110 pilots that will pay to see u eat something else in a years time when ur proved wrong.

way to stay positive champ. u must be great to fly with
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Old 30th Mar 2010, 13:04
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Hey Cunny, bet you said the same thing about the first F100 when it turned up too.....
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Old 30th Mar 2010, 21:26
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too true, he said that when they were flying three days a week to broome with one f100! I believe they have looked at MEL-KTA but maybe tha thas changed now QF are going to be operating on that from May.
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Old 31st Mar 2010, 13:17
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cunninglinguist = tool (not the sharpest tool in the shed)

i have no connection with xr anymore ; but cunning has no engineering background and the IAE V2500 is THE preferred engine on the a320 aircraft.

the cfm is fine BUT the the IAE V2500 IS a far superior engine re fuel burn/ongoing maintenance !

cheers
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Old 1st Apr 2010, 03:20
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cunninglinguist,

I know of at least 110 pilots that will pay to see u eat something else in a years time when ur proved wrong.

way to stay positive champ. u must be great to fly with
It's amazing how you crankers can turn your own bull back onto me, I'm not the one who stated catergorically 4years ago " Skywest will definitely be operating 3-4 A320s within 6 months ".
And 110 pilots, thats a lot of pilots for one 320, I would have thought a dozen at best ?
And yes, I am great to fly with Unless you're full of 5hit

too true, he said that when they were flying three days a week to broome with one f100! I believe they have looked at MEL-KTA but maybe tha thas changed now QF are going to be operating on that from May
Maybe, but I also questioned the wisdom of PH-KG-ML, that lasted a long time did'nt it ? ( yeh I know, they pulled out of that coz it was doing so well.

i have no connection with xr anymore ; but cunning has no engineering background and the IAE V2500 is THE preferred engine on the a320 aircraft.
the cfm is fine BUT the the IAE V2500 IS a far superior engine re fuel burn/ongoing maintenance !
And a reply from the biggest cranker of all, who do you have a connection with mustard ? other than your flight sim. I guess the fact that the 2 largest A319/320 operators in the world use CFM is just because they're not as smart as you.

What you tossers don't seem to grasp is that I have absolutley nothing against Skywest, never worked for them and in fact a long time ago, knocked back an interview with them, what I can't stand is blatant BS, simple really.

Good luck to Skywest, including my mates that fly for them.
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Old 1st Apr 2010, 19:15
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You must have missed they relaunched the kalgoorlie to melbourne run a few weeks back.
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Old 2nd Apr 2010, 02:01
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Rumour has it that there will be 3 applicants from Tiger for pilot positions.
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