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Old 16th Nov 2009, 19:21
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Quite a lot of PE's have not come straight from uni with no experience. A lot I know of have started off by doing an apprenticeship, then a few years later getting a scholarship from QF to do the uni degree course. Then aside from the degree they also do LAME courses.
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Old 16th Nov 2009, 19:54
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I am very glad I am retired too, however during my 40 something years in the Industry I never ever broke any Laws,
Another great trip I had about 21 years ago was a ferry flight from Melbourne through to England with 3 Captains, (no pax though of course), a smaller aircraft and took some 10 days. Had to do routine basic maintenance on the aircraft daily and a check around half way, funny thing was we never had even one defect in the logs all that way until on descent on the final leg, then I had to write up some 18 defects.
Sounds like the same law was broken 18 times here.
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Old 16th Nov 2009, 21:54
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Quite a lot of PE's have not come straight from uni with no experience. A lot I know of have started off by doing an apprenticeship, then a few years later getting a scholarship from QF to do the uni degree course. Then aside from the degree they also do LAME courses.
Yes, that is like the ones I have met, plenty of courses and training but NO practical hands on experience on the line or at outports, that is obvious from many of the posts here.
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Old 16th Nov 2009, 22:01
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Sounds like the same law was broken 18 times here.
Yet another person who has NO idea of the real World.

As I said it was me and THREE CAPTAINS, now if ALL 3 CAPTAINS were happy to continue on without logging any defects, you really expect ME to over rule all of them and write up a defect that all of them (and I) are not worried about?

One of our overnight stops on that trip was New Delhi, I should have got you to come out and fix it.
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Old 16th Nov 2009, 23:22
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airsupport, I've been around nearly as long as you and have in the past seen and done things as you say.Toilet light yes bad example but thats how it is NOW.
The world has moved on, rules and compliance are now much tougher.
Deviation from the amm is not tolerated.The company will not thank you for breaking their or CASA's regs and will hang you out to dry when you are caught .
Yes it still happens but much less and people are less inclined to do so.

You cannot so much as drop one in your daks without a MM reference.

You don't have to like it but that is a fact and it is not just qantas.

anyway, no delays in YSSY that I've heard of from the degreed engineers dispute.
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Old 17th Nov 2009, 00:19
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airsupport, I've been around nearly as long as you and have in the past seen and done things as you say.Toilet light yes bad example but thats how it is NOW.
The world has moved on, rules and compliance are now much tougher.
Deviation from the amm is not tolerated.The company will not thank you for breaking their or CASA's regs and will hang you out to dry when you are caught .
Yes it still happens but much less and people are less inclined to do so.

You cannot so much as drop one in your daks without a MM reference.

You don't have to like it but that is a fact and it is not just qantas.
Firstly, thank you for a sensible and polite reply.

You seem to know what you are talking about, so I will take your word for it, as I said I retired a few years ago now, just cannot believe it is so stupid now, I was hoping it was just a Qantas thing, but by what you say maybe not.

So glad it was not like this years ago, I would have spent half of my working life stuck in some awful parts of the World for no sensible reason instead of flying on safely.

I will keep out of it now, good luck to you all, you will need it.
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