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Hey Spike. You sure can eat it !
I only found that out myself a couple of weeks ago when doing an overnighter. I couldnt believe it when the crew all broke out their Danish butter packs and started eating it ! Amazing stuff really, you find out something new every day I guess...........
I only found that out myself a couple of weeks ago when doing an overnighter. I couldnt believe it when the crew all broke out their Danish butter packs and started eating it ! Amazing stuff really, you find out something new every day I guess...........
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Hong Kong fooey. I can confirm most J* 330 skippers earn between 230k-280 that is regular drivers including allowances. What you can't read in their eba is the **** woeful rostering software they have and an inexperinced crewing devision with an umlimited budget to patch up what the rostering does not. With the latest Eba and increased days off. Most pilots get single day standbys rostered which are useless because most trips are at least 4 days. Crewing are always chasing pilots to do extra trips, nearly always including a day off. These are by mutual agreement. Most pilots take the day off payments. Most trips are 20hrs stick. You talk to the average driver there they can easily pickup a few days off payments a month which greatly boosts the pay packet. Additionally they are famous for giving people holidays and sometimes forced leave them asking them to fly for weeks at a time all on big $ day off payments. Most drivers are happy with the coin but are unhappy with the amateur hour everywhere else. Flight attendants totally difference scenario. **** money and flogged to death.
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Sorry to sound like a broken record Jet, but the fact remains ( if the base figures and O/T figure printed previously are correct ) if they flew 25hrs a month O/T every month including their leave, you still can not get close to 260K let alone 280K.
Widebody Captain 2009, base $170,500
O/T $170,500/787 = $217/hr
25hrs O/T per month over 11 months = 217x25x11 = $60000 ( of course this is assuming dispensation to fly 1075 hrs in a year
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still can only get 230,500 ? maybe if you add in super and bonuses etc etc ?
Checkie 170,500 + 20% check allowance = $204,600 plus O/T ( lets assume he only does 1000hrs ) $260 ( O/T rate ) x 250 hrs = $65000
Ok, now we are getting close $270K for a checkie that does 1000hrs/year.
Maybe I need to use an LCC calculator ?
Jetstar pilots are paid quite well, so why the need to BS about how much they get
Widebody Captain 2009, base $170,500
O/T $170,500/787 = $217/hr
25hrs O/T per month over 11 months = 217x25x11 = $60000 ( of course this is assuming dispensation to fly 1075 hrs in a year
)still can only get 230,500 ? maybe if you add in super and bonuses etc etc ?
Checkie 170,500 + 20% check allowance = $204,600 plus O/T ( lets assume he only does 1000hrs ) $260 ( O/T rate ) x 250 hrs = $65000
Ok, now we are getting close $270K for a checkie that does 1000hrs/year.
Maybe I need to use an LCC calculator ?
Jetstar pilots are paid quite well, so why the need to BS about how much they get
Dear hongkongfooey,
I think Jet Jockey's reference to:
and
My emphasis. Is key.
Sitting around and the phone rings. Fly to DRW and position straight back. Fly up in the evening and back on the next morning = two days of day off payment. Several thousand dollars just for one duty period.
Now flying whilst on leave may give you a day off payment for every duty day that month! I will let you work that one out.
Sometimes the detail is in the fine print.
Cheers.
I think Jet Jockey's reference to:
Most pilots take the day off payments
easily pickup a few days off payments a month which greatly boosts the pay packet
Sitting around and the phone rings. Fly to DRW and position straight back. Fly up in the evening and back on the next morning = two days of day off payment. Several thousand dollars just for one duty period.
Now flying whilst on leave may give you a day off payment for every duty day that month! I will let you work that one out.
Sometimes the detail is in the fine print.
Cheers.
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you have not added the retention bonus (6%) and the profit share bonus (this yr $0, last year around $15-20k)
along with day off payments (anywhere b/w 10-30k)
you then see the true package
you have not added the retention bonus (6%) and the profit share bonus (this yr $0, last year around $15-20k)
along with day off payments (anywhere b/w 10-30k)
you then see the true package
Great to see that a better EBA was negotiated on the widebody fleet than the initial miserly '10% above narrow body rate for that duty on the widebody' (words to that effect).
From my days as a porn-star I recall that the call out pay was very lucrative. On one occasion I operated on a day off SYD - HBA and deadheaded home for a sweet one G(less tax
)....home in time for lunch! I can see that it would be easy to add 20K p.a. to the group certificate if such is still on offer.
From my days as a porn-star I recall that the call out pay was very lucrative. On one occasion I operated on a day off SYD - HBA and deadheaded home for a sweet one G(less tax
)....home in time for lunch! I can see that it would be easy to add 20K p.a. to the group certificate if such is still on offer.
Sitting around and the phone rings. Fly to DRW and position straight back. Fly up in the evening and back on the next morning = two days of day off payment. Several thousand dollars just for one duty period.
Now flying whilst on leave may give you a day off payment for every duty day that month! I will let you work that one out.
Sometimes the detail is in the fine print.
Now flying whilst on leave may give you a day off payment for every duty day that month! I will let you work that one out.
Sometimes the detail is in the fine print.
Keep it real, if pilots from QF etc were to do this they would dwarf a Jetstar salary.
Bank managers will not loan to you on what you received, they will loan to you on what your salary is. The Air China boys will always receive a bigger loan than the Jetstar guys.
P.S And did I mention the other day I was entitled to a taxi, but I took the cash instead. That increased my year salary by another 50 Bucks!!!!!! Now I just need to do this 20 times and it is worth a grand.
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Ok, fair enough guys, then working on max everything, as an A320 F/O I earn 2,325,800HKD ( currently 7.1/AUD ) = 327,577AUD/annum, not taking into account the fact that tax is 1/2 of Oz.....
That is for an A320 F/O
Yep, apples to oranges but thats the way this thread is running, max pay
That is for an A320 F/O
Yep, apples to oranges but thats the way this thread is running, max pay
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Exactly Kaboy, and as you & I both know, the Ca boys are not in need need of loans anymore. Mortgages are for those who've never left Australia. Only those who aren't getting paid enough feel the need to justify their pay (Not the Ka/ cx guys).
The 170K is currently being paid for Dhc8 checkees at Surveillance Australia. Good on them for getting a good market rate. Cheers
The 170K is currently being paid for Dhc8 checkees at Surveillance Australia. Good on them for getting a good market rate. Cheers
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The 170K is currently being paid for Dhc8 checkees at Surveillance Australia. Good on them for getting a good market rate. Cheers
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Jetbest:
Allow me to enlighten you.The cost difference is you(sic) 655+page EBA.
Funny thing is most of the Qantas Contract you heap so much derision upon is very similar to the jetstar contract.
Where most of the difference occurs is in scheduling matters and the descriptive nature there with.
Therefore since the contracts are very similar in most areas, the JetStar contract must be crap too, excepting of course for your rostering agreements !
Allow me to enlighten you.The cost difference is you(sic) 655+page EBA.
Funny thing is most of the Qantas Contract you heap so much derision upon is very similar to the jetstar contract.
Where most of the difference occurs is in scheduling matters and the descriptive nature there with.
Therefore since the contracts are very similar in most areas, the JetStar contract must be crap too, excepting of course for your rostering agreements !
