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Old 27th Sep 2009, 11:03
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To the Fed Sec, although we here in club pineapple cairns did not lose kiwi, we were certainly threatened that it if we did lose the contract it would be because of the LAME's 'behaviour' and not mismanagement.
must of been them darn cones.
If you want to look at contracts, have a squiz at the one sniggi proposed to jet* with the training costs upfront. He wasn't trying to discourage the work, he just made a genuine %^&* up.
His little subordinate was performing miracles at the time....
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Old 28th Sep 2009, 10:13
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Regarding customer contracts - I've heard from a reliable source , that SQ have again approached QF in recent months for line maint support and even offered to throw in A380 training as well. QF must be the only airline in the world that is turning away work/training during the midst of a "recession". I wonder if the shareholders will be informed of these sorts of facts - obviously the company cannot use the extra revenue!
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Old 29th Sep 2009, 05:03
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QF must be the only airline in the world that is turning away work/training during the midst of a "recession".
QF have been doing this for years. You only have to ask about the Air Canada contract. Air Canada were going to pay for the 777 training, and they were flatly refused when the times were good and there were plenty of people around to do the job.
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Old 4th Oct 2009, 06:16
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So what is the outcome of the SIT xfers. Has it happened yet?
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Old 4th Oct 2009, 12:16
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Just a quick question for those in the know.. If the membership were to withdraw from their extended hours roster agreement and return to an 8 hour shift, would there still be a requirement to transfer 12 blokes to the shed??

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Old 5th Oct 2009, 02:30
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Bring Back 8hr Shift

Regardless, the 8 hour shift should be re-introduce at all work locations.
Let's have quality time with our families instead of the relentless fight for the holy dollar.
When forced onto the 8 hr shift, I relearned the pleasure of being with my children as they grew up. I was less fatigued and cranky.
The money doesn't matter!
Since our big EBA win, and the loss of a huge amount of my salary due to workload / customer payments, I have learned to live on what I earn. Others I know lost more than I. They are still alive, and they also have learned to appreciate life.
Stop being greedy you lot.
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Old 6th Oct 2009, 03:02
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Bring back 8 hour shift?

Can you explain how going in to work more often gives you more time at home?

The main benefit of extended shifts apart from more hours on penalty rates is less visits to work.

Have you forgotten single days off, working three weekends in a row, day shift at single time and 8 different start times?
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Old 6th Oct 2009, 03:36
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Hi UPPERLOBE,
I think if you re-read my post, I said "quality time" with family.
Just because the company had you on anti-social rosters previously, don't believe this cannot be avoided if sufficient effort is put into designing a better way.
The company wants extended rosters. It suits them. They will make any other rosters as unpalatable as possible to achieve this.
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Old 6th Oct 2009, 06:08
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sooner or later thr chickens will cone home , then we will see who rules the roost.
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Old 5th Nov 2009, 04:32
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Word is, the list comes out tomorrow (6th Nov).

And the 12 is now only 11...
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Old 5th Nov 2009, 04:40
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The ALAEA are presenting some better ideas to them at 1400 tomorrow. I hope genuine consideration is given to our presentation. If they brush us aside, we will have to go to plan B.
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Old 6th Nov 2009, 09:04
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So steve what was the outcome today? Did the 12 get notified or were you able to negotiate a better outcome? Not the nicest situation for those involved.
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Old 9th Nov 2009, 19:53
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I reckon the guys may as well have been talking to a brick wall, that's what management are like at QF.

They still haven't released the engagement survey results because they would have been smashed. Useless.
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Old 9th Nov 2009, 20:00
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Hey guys,

I wasn't at the meeting last week but can sum up the report I had back from the Reps involved.

Our guys presented a number of ideas that delivered a more efficient operation to the tune of around 25 heads. The company said thank you, we will implement as many of them as possible and then announced that they were going to move the 12 LAMEs anyway.

That's what you get when you co-operate with this pack of *****S.
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Old 9th Nov 2009, 21:45
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lesson learnt then I guess, you can't co-operate with them. To them it's still a one way street of buggary.
Not to worry, we have long memories.
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Old 9th Nov 2009, 23:08
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I think it is becoming obvious the writing is on the wall for the SIT guys. With flexibilities like "flexible rostering" within these newgen teams, why would the company even bother.

What goes around comes around.
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Old 11th Nov 2009, 08:37
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Hey guys,

I wasn't at the meeting last week but can sum up the report I had back from the Reps involved.

Our guys presented a number of ideas that delivered a more efficient operation to the tune of around 25 heads. The company said thank you, we will implement as many of them as possible and then announced that they were going to move the 12 LAMEs anyway.

That's what you get when you co-operate with this pack of *****S.
And you were expecting??? Isn't that why you left them in the first place FedSec?

The move of the 12 LAME's from S.I.T. to Base was always happening. It was quiet for a while, but that didn't mean it wasn't happening. The management certainly wasn't waiting for you to come along and try and stop it. Who knows, they may use some of your ideas presented to them at the last meeting, and use them against us at a time of their choosing.

This is not to say you're not doing your job. You're doing all you can, but as you stated, "That's what you get when you co-operate with a pack of *****S."

In summary, it's the same game, just with different players, or different crap, but same stink!
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Old 12th Nov 2009, 00:15
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We're not too pleased with the new managers. Every single change they force against our members wishes now becomes a new EA (EBA) claim for the next round in the second half of 2010.

We have very limited tools to fight them today but when our day comes, they will regret that they haven't accepted the hand of friendship we have offered them.
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Old 12th Nov 2009, 00:25
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I would bet they won,t regret anything there are all on big money they could not careless management never changes no matter who they are.
Being flexible is a one way street there way or no way.
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Old 12th Nov 2009, 07:41
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Bring on EBA IX.
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