Ozjet's final landing
Whispering "T" Jet
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From: Melbourne.
Should the staff vote for the deed full payment ( including redund $ ) will be immediate and re hiring will start the following week .
"Including redundancy $" does that mean full redundancy payments?
I would get these points clarified and set in stone before voting either way.
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From: in them thar hills
Take no notice of Heavy Cargo. He has a vested interest in sale at any price because if it liquidates, ASIC may come after him. If there is a sale he will get some money out of it.
Strategic have only agreed to pay out staff entitlements. They have made no employment promises.
Strategic have only agreed to pay out staff entitlements. They have made no employment promises.
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From: Sydney
Gas chamber. ASIC will not be after anyone you do live in dream world. If it liquidates no one gets anything which would suit a guy like you.
If it continues Stratigic move forward with AOC and all the staff get paid EVERYTHING immediatly. Some will get jobs.
No a hard call ???????????
If it continues Stratigic move forward with AOC and all the staff get paid EVERYTHING immediatly. Some will get jobs.
No a hard call ???????????
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From: Queensland
Stratigic have done a deal to buy OZ Jet and pay full staff entitlements on 26 June. Should the staff vote for the deed full payment ( including redund $ ) will be immediate and re hiring will start the following week . If the staff vote the deed down no payout or jobs for the staff and staff will have to wait many months for GEARS payments.
Or is this an un-authorised statement relative to what is on your personal wish list?
No a hard call ???????????
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Carried over from the merged thread....
So Bundaberg, since when have Strategic been a proven operator that can then be deemed to be respected and have a solid corporate structure?
It's in fact the direct opposite. It has never been an operator and if it has it's been on the basis of a borrowed AOC.
Yes, it does have a corporate structure and there is certianly experience there. In particular experience with the failed Ozjet the first time round!! How wonderful.
They are to this date a charter broker!!
So Bundaberg, since when have Strategic been a proven operator that can then be deemed to be respected and have a solid corporate structure?
It's in fact the direct opposite. It has never been an operator and if it has it's been on the basis of a borrowed AOC.
Yes, it does have a corporate structure and there is certianly experience there. In particular experience with the failed Ozjet the first time round!! How wonderful.
They are to this date a charter broker!!
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From: australia
HC, you make a wild prediction, there, that may get people's hopes up.
However, interested parties only need to go back and read previous posts of yours also with predictions to see how many of these actually came to pass. This will be another of those predictions - I'd like to be preven wrong, but I won't hold my breath. When considering how to vote, be careful and consider the interests of such people.
However, interested parties only need to go back and read previous posts of yours also with predictions to see how many of these actually came to pass. This will be another of those predictions - I'd like to be preven wrong, but I won't hold my breath. When considering how to vote, be careful and consider the interests of such people.
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From: Brisbane
Rudder you have hit the nail on the head, Strategic haven't done anything as yet to prove themselves. They have been fortunate enough to land a fat government contract but will find I think life in the real world a little different and as you mentioned they are using staff who have not done so well in the past.
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Feenix,
And the sharks are circling on the fat contract as we speak!!
It will be an interesting few months on that front. The Standing order is up for Tender and to be honest I just think a lot of what Strategic is doing is just noise to exhibit they are getting underway with an operation as they don't meet some essential criteria going forward for the standing offer and for which Defence and CASA has been criticised in the past.
And the sharks are circling on the fat contract as we speak!!
It will be an interesting few months on that front. The Standing order is up for Tender and to be honest I just think a lot of what Strategic is doing is just noise to exhibit they are getting underway with an operation as they don't meet some essential criteria going forward for the standing offer and for which Defence and CASA has been criticised in the past.
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From: sydney, australia
A response to Rudder.
Rudder,
You are correct that Strategic operate as a Charter Broker but lets give them some credit. Their operations have the approval of the authorities, they may use foreign AOC yet they comply and continue to pay their bills and thus deserve some credit.
Their previous association with Ozjet would have terminated in mid 2008.
Strategic in general have the experience, changes have taken place over the past few years which may find their team stronger than most expect.
It will be their decision to get together with the Oz-Heavy operation. One can see the passenger gain once all aircraft are operational. For freight, it may take time to see the aircraft available, if ever???
Tks
You are correct that Strategic operate as a Charter Broker but lets give them some credit. Their operations have the approval of the authorities, they may use foreign AOC yet they comply and continue to pay their bills and thus deserve some credit.
Their previous association with Ozjet would have terminated in mid 2008.
Strategic in general have the experience, changes have taken place over the past few years which may find their team stronger than most expect.
It will be their decision to get together with the Oz-Heavy operation. One can see the passenger gain once all aircraft are operational. For freight, it may take time to see the aircraft available, if ever???
Tks
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From: Queensland
Does it really matter what Strategic do?
Surely the issue is whether there is a deed or arrangement whereby Strategic buys the company (and thus AOC) which guarantees payment of employees entitlements?
Keep focused!
Surely the issue is whether there is a deed or arrangement whereby Strategic buys the company (and thus AOC) which guarantees payment of employees entitlements?
Keep focused!
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From: Australia
Wages and entitlements???
Well HC
You always keep on about how HLC has paid wages and kept all super up-to-date.
I have not received my last fortnights pay, entitlements, been honored for my last months termination period, been paid any claims that have been lodged, and I have also been in contact with my super company, and guess what, they haven't been paid either.
I have also tried to get a straight answer from anyone within the company, but with no luck. I have left messages for someone to give me a call-back, including yourself, and nobody has the decency to even give me a call back, even just to tell me to
-off!!!
So you will excuse the people that are a bit irate with the situation, especially when you put posts up on a public forum that most of us know are just pure fabrications or blatant lies!
Good luck with your future endeavors, and may you live a long and prosperous life!!
You always keep on about how HLC has paid wages and kept all super up-to-date.
OZ Jet is being sold to another operator and B737-200 leased back to start flying again for them. HeavyLift will write off the 13Million and move on with the freighters. As advised all entitlements will be paid in full, super is upto date, heavylift paid the last payroll . The new operator is taking the staff back whom want to go flying.
We wish you all well.
We wish you all well.
I have not received my last fortnights pay, entitlements, been honored for my last months termination period, been paid any claims that have been lodged, and I have also been in contact with my super company, and guess what, they haven't been paid either.
I have also tried to get a straight answer from anyone within the company, but with no luck. I have left messages for someone to give me a call-back, including yourself, and nobody has the decency to even give me a call back, even just to tell me to
-off!!!So you will excuse the people that are a bit irate with the situation, especially when you put posts up on a public forum that most of us know are just pure fabrications or blatant lies!
Good luck with your future endeavors, and may you live a long and prosperous life!!
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From: what should be capital of Oz
Heavy Cargo, how about you answer the anomalies raised by taz1971 which would seem to indicate you are telling porkies?
Or are you misleading everyone when you say "Heavy Lift paid the last payroll"? Maybe, but to whom - HL or OJ? And whose Super is up to date? Some specifics, please, seeing you are advocating people to vote as you recommend.
Or are you misleading everyone when you say "Heavy Lift paid the last payroll"? Maybe, but to whom - HL or OJ? And whose Super is up to date? Some specifics, please, seeing you are advocating people to vote as you recommend.
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From: Brisbane
HL you sound like such a compassionate caring guy who has nothing but his ex staff's welfare at heart. Even if they defy your demands you are still willing to retrain them as brain surgeons. What a guy!!!!!!!!!!! Or is it just plain blackmail with no guarantees of what you promise once the vote is over.
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From: planet earth
I don't pretend to be an expert on this subject, but from an outsider looking in it seems that Heavy Cargo has a vested interest in the sale of Ozjet.
All those who are employed by Ozjet do yourselves a favour, think carefully and do your research before making a decision if this offer goes to a vote.
HC seems only interested in pushing his own barrow, not the welfare and livelihood of those caught up in this unfortunate set of circumstances.
Beware of hidden pitfalls. I wouldn't trust this guy/gal as far as I could throw him/her.
All those who are employed by Ozjet do yourselves a favour, think carefully and do your research before making a decision if this offer goes to a vote.
HC seems only interested in pushing his own barrow, not the welfare and livelihood of those caught up in this unfortunate set of circumstances.
Beware of hidden pitfalls. I wouldn't trust this guy/gal as far as I could throw him/her.
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From: Australia
I doubt that HeavyCargo is only interested in himself, this being the case where Heavylift have applied for more capacity?
http://www.iasc.gov.au/applications/files/4418.pdf
http://www.iasc.gov.au/applications/files/4418.pdf
