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S@##$ Union
The S?H Union are the most moronic sycophantic bunch of ineffectual tossers I have unfortunately had the pleasure to come across. Whilst S?H haul basically consists of a mothers club who do this as a hobby to go shopping in perth, they are too disinterested and too pathetic to ever make a stand Hence the perpetual ineffectual monopoly of a few who have rule the union and treat their members with disdain,
They are spineless and know they always get reelected unapposed.
You can forget S?H don't trust them L?H they are the most two faced back stabbing hypocritical and they call themselves unionist- this is an opinion only you make up your own.But hey I'm not telling you anything you don't already know
They are spineless and know they always get reelected unapposed.
You can forget S?H don't trust them L?H they are the most two faced back stabbing hypocritical and they call themselves unionist- this is an opinion only you make up your own.But hey I'm not telling you anything you don't already know
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Pegasus... Your idea about having one EBA for the entire division is a great one, but lets just see how cohesive your longhaul workforce is when you come to negotiate your next EBA. When is your EBA up, 2013? or is it earlier than that?? You will have an absolute sh*tfight on your hands to get QF and QCCA to be cohesive. If you all get 3% a year, then QF's 3% will be more than QCCA's thus the pay gap between the 2 groups will become bigger. Or maybe QF crew will take a pay freeze so QCCA can see a decent pay increase - yeah right.
Anyone can see that you will not be a cohesive group when it comes to the next EBA.
Anyone can see that you will not be a cohesive group when it comes to the next EBA.
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well i dont think the LH membership thought it was going to be easy but its better than offshoring which was the alternative or MAM casuals and SH crew getting the INternational Flying with a lower cost base
The LH flight attendants bit the bullet and did what they could. They also did things to massively lower sick leave and now have the lowest sick leave in the company, which management keep congratulating them on and rewarding them by giving them more and more international flying
I guess the proof of the pudding is always in the eating and we will look at the group certificates of the QCCA crew at the end of the year and see whether they were better off in MAM
Considering they now get sick leave, 6 weeks annual leave, staff travel and largely tax free meal allowances in cash. I am told that on the A380 in particular the QCCA crew are doing it so tough on their third world conditions that they are booking on 3 night cruises out of san diego during their 5/6 day slips in LA or hiring cars and driving to Las Vegas for Flying to New York for 3/4 nights.
Just doesnt sound as bad to me as some are painting it. And i think that their conditions will of course improve over time in the same way that everyone elses have over time.
The one thing that i can say is that they have better job security than some in the Qantas group in my opinion
The LH flight attendants bit the bullet and did what they could. They also did things to massively lower sick leave and now have the lowest sick leave in the company, which management keep congratulating them on and rewarding them by giving them more and more international flying
I guess the proof of the pudding is always in the eating and we will look at the group certificates of the QCCA crew at the end of the year and see whether they were better off in MAM
Considering they now get sick leave, 6 weeks annual leave, staff travel and largely tax free meal allowances in cash. I am told that on the A380 in particular the QCCA crew are doing it so tough on their third world conditions that they are booking on 3 night cruises out of san diego during their 5/6 day slips in LA or hiring cars and driving to Las Vegas for Flying to New York for 3/4 nights.
Just doesnt sound as bad to me as some are painting it. And i think that their conditions will of course improve over time in the same way that everyone elses have over time.
The one thing that i can say is that they have better job security than some in the Qantas group in my opinion
S/H-L/H, MEL-SYD, FORD-HOLDEN when will the division end.
Being married to a S/H CSM with 30 plus years who is too young to retire, ho hum.
You all work for the same company, and a great company it is.
Whilst on L/H flights, ALL of the operating crew treat us equally as well as the paying customers which is impeccable for service and professionalism.
S/H is NOT a mothers club, but a different type of flying on smaller planes and when my wife commenced flying, many of the posters on this board were either at school or not even a twinkle in their parents eyes.
Beehives......................give us a break.
And most of the 30 year plus crew consider the 738 to be like a comfortable pair of slippers..............they feel at home whilst working on them.
AND L/H please don't embarrass the world with the kissy kissy greet before a flight.
Being married to a S/H CSM with 30 plus years who is too young to retire, ho hum.
You all work for the same company, and a great company it is.
Whilst on L/H flights, ALL of the operating crew treat us equally as well as the paying customers which is impeccable for service and professionalism.
S/H is NOT a mothers club, but a different type of flying on smaller planes and when my wife commenced flying, many of the posters on this board were either at school or not even a twinkle in their parents eyes.
Beehives......................give us a break.
And most of the 30 year plus crew consider the 738 to be like a comfortable pair of slippers..............they feel at home whilst working on them.
AND L/H please don't embarrass the world with the kissy kissy greet before a flight.
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Kissy Kissy Greet
Guesss whose idea that was?
An ex domestic hostie.
How do such old people(30 years plus)still fly?
Must scare the hell out of the pax on a 738 when they get on board and find the Nannas club serving them lunch.All that powder and rouge...Ooooh!
An ex domestic hostie.
How do such old people(30 years plus)still fly?
Must scare the hell out of the pax on a 738 when they get on board and find the Nannas club serving them lunch.All that powder and rouge...Ooooh!
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Pass The Chux Please
Why?
Have you been sick?
People like your wife have turned the domestic operation into a personal fiefdom that is resistant to change.How much leave does she have left to burn.Probably about 240 days.
The "beehives" have ruled the roost for 30 years or more.they have it all their own.I have seen them make younger crew cry.
They will not get their own way this time.No sweetheart deals with the company to shaft someone else to maintain their status quo this time.
Domestic as the name suggests does domestic flying.Different division,different culture(female)different history
Let them deal with their own problems.You know,the problems they created.Nothing lasts forever.Gotta move on someday.
Surely you the toyboy pilot husband can keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed.
Have you been sick?
People like your wife have turned the domestic operation into a personal fiefdom that is resistant to change.How much leave does she have left to burn.Probably about 240 days.
The "beehives" have ruled the roost for 30 years or more.they have it all their own.I have seen them make younger crew cry.
They will not get their own way this time.No sweetheart deals with the company to shaft someone else to maintain their status quo this time.
Domestic as the name suggests does domestic flying.Different division,different culture(female)different history
Let them deal with their own problems.You know,the problems they created.Nothing lasts forever.Gotta move on someday.
Surely you the toyboy pilot husband can keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed.
Whoa.................... I wish that I had the brains to be a pilot or a F/A, I am retired albeit with some diminished assets to keep me in a coffee and beer or 2.
The younger crew (20+years) have her on a pedestal and supply her with a fresh chux and many napkins for every duty.
All that powder and rouge...Ooooh!... not duty free and that hurts.
Oh well off to somewhere in Oz tomorrow with a smile and too many satisfied customers to brag about.
How many L/H, and S/H crew have attained the age of retirement and still fly......and fly...........and fly..............
LSL is to be taken when due and retirement age means just that..........retire if you can afford to and live the rest of your life doing whatever you have worked for for.
The younger crew (20+years) have her on a pedestal and supply her with a fresh chux and many napkins for every duty.
All that powder and rouge...Ooooh!... not duty free and that hurts.
Oh well off to somewhere in Oz tomorrow with a smile and too many satisfied customers to brag about.
How many L/H, and S/H crew have attained the age of retirement and still fly......and fly...........and fly..............
LSL is to be taken when due and retirement age means just that..........retire if you can afford to and live the rest of your life doing whatever you have worked for for.
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....writes.... "And most of the 30 year plus crew consider the 738 to be like a comfortable pair of slippers".
....would they happen to the same Lesbian Loafers that I am trying to champion at the Warehouse of Excellence???? Does she like to wear the ones with the 'carbon-nuetral' synthetic lining or the natural lamb's wool inserts??????
The beehives are a bunch of saggy breasted/dried up/husband-less/cat loving/Yardley talcum powder wearing bunch of pink cup cake tossers. I too have witnessed the way they speak to the younger MAM casual crew and it is appalling.
Yes ho-hum....these TAA beehives may have been flying waaaaay before my mum and dad even considered having sex to concieve me.....but that doesn't make them better flight attendants.
....would they happen to the same Lesbian Loafers that I am trying to champion at the Warehouse of Excellence???? Does she like to wear the ones with the 'carbon-nuetral' synthetic lining or the natural lamb's wool inserts??????
The beehives are a bunch of saggy breasted/dried up/husband-less/cat loving/Yardley talcum powder wearing bunch of pink cup cake tossers. I too have witnessed the way they speak to the younger MAM casual crew and it is appalling.
Yes ho-hum....these TAA beehives may have been flying waaaaay before my mum and dad even considered having sex to concieve me.....but that doesn't make them better flight attendants.
The beehives are a bunch of saggy breasted, well maybe......./dried up/ husband-less no...../cat loving NO WAY /Yardley talcum powder wearing bunch of pink cup cake tossers HO HUM . I too have witnessed the way they speak to the younger MAM casual crew and it is appalling. You must be in a strange base as no crew would treat anyone with less than 100%respect, as with all of our customers.
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Top 5 Domestic Service Standards
....in no particular order...but of equal importance:
1. Wet chux in handle [what do you use this for? to wipe down dirty overhead locker handles as you drag the cart up the aisle?]
2. Covering crew meals with table cloth to take down to Y/C galley [what's this all about...is it shameful for crew to be walking down the aisles with salad bowls and hot meals from J/C. Is it a sin to be seen eating???]
3. Single stacked splits drawers [hello? has anyone had the pleasure of working on the 'ass' end of the cart and having to run back to galley cos beehive needs you to get them a spicy tomato juice and a little bottle of brandy?]
4. Wet chux placed in between cart top and cory pots [hello? its not like we are going camping and need heat insulation for 2 days....who cares if the tea/coffee gets cold by the time you drag the cart up to row 23 in B zone]
5. Day bag eskie with wheels [I've made my bone about this many times in previous posts....and they still remain a sore point for me to this day. Why on earth would you want your day bag to be 'pimped up' to have an extending handle and wheels????? For goodness sakes beehives...if you don't have the strength to carry a day bag (full of your own 'cheap' Australis or Maybelline makeup), how the hell are you gonna rotate the door handle of your pokey 737 door?????????
OK....I'm getting off my anti-Domestic soap box now......
1. Wet chux in handle [what do you use this for? to wipe down dirty overhead locker handles as you drag the cart up the aisle?]
2. Covering crew meals with table cloth to take down to Y/C galley [what's this all about...is it shameful for crew to be walking down the aisles with salad bowls and hot meals from J/C. Is it a sin to be seen eating???]
3. Single stacked splits drawers [hello? has anyone had the pleasure of working on the 'ass' end of the cart and having to run back to galley cos beehive needs you to get them a spicy tomato juice and a little bottle of brandy?]
4. Wet chux placed in between cart top and cory pots [hello? its not like we are going camping and need heat insulation for 2 days....who cares if the tea/coffee gets cold by the time you drag the cart up to row 23 in B zone]
5. Day bag eskie with wheels [I've made my bone about this many times in previous posts....and they still remain a sore point for me to this day. Why on earth would you want your day bag to be 'pimped up' to have an extending handle and wheels????? For goodness sakes beehives...if you don't have the strength to carry a day bag (full of your own 'cheap' Australis or Maybelline makeup), how the hell are you gonna rotate the door handle of your pokey 737 door?????????
OK....I'm getting off my anti-Domestic soap box now......
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Look the truth of the matter here is....the Domestics (as I am unfortunately at this stage one of) do things very different....bordering on the occult. Domestics get so caught up in the little micro things that (a) are inconsequential or (b) there is nothing you can humanly do anything about. Eg...opening up a meal cart and finding no portioned controlled waters on the trays.....WHO CARES!!!! Just deal with it and think outside the square...use a water jug on top of cart. Another example....nil onload of artificial sweetner....WHO CARES!!!!!.....again.....3 pillows short in J/C...WHO CARES!!!!!!!!
Flying with ex LH crew are the best...life is chill, life is controlled, and life is orderly. Seriously though, Domestics need to learn to chill.....they dart around like manic crystal-meth addicts....calm down sisters or you'll end up getting a bleeding nose from all your panicking. Flying domestic is intense.....everything is such a DRAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flying with ex LH crew are the best...life is chill, life is controlled, and life is orderly. Seriously though, Domestics need to learn to chill.....they dart around like manic crystal-meth addicts....calm down sisters or you'll end up getting a bleeding nose from all your panicking. Flying domestic is intense.....everything is such a DRAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Domestos, what can we say..........without any form of malice, you are a master of the English language.
You have mentioned some but not all of my wife's habits, but then again she still has a few more years until retirement, and with many more 6 monthly EP's ..........which used to be yearly with a 6 month oral check (keep it nice) which.
When EP's are on the horizon I head off somewhere for to avoid pre EPA stress and have a week of me time with no "BRACE BRACE BRACE" conversation in the house.
Anyway EP's are due in a few months and new amendments to the manual are out so I may go to BUE for a drink or 3 and enjoy the impeccable service of QF L/H crew (I mean it)
You have mentioned some but not all of my wife's habits, but then again she still has a few more years until retirement, and with many more 6 monthly EP's ..........which used to be yearly with a 6 month oral check (keep it nice) which.
When EP's are on the horizon I head off somewhere for to avoid pre EPA stress and have a week of me time with no "BRACE BRACE BRACE" conversation in the house.
Anyway EP's are due in a few months and new amendments to the manual are out so I may go to BUE for a drink or 3 and enjoy the impeccable service of QF L/H crew (I mean it)
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Domestos,
don't insult demented crystal meth atics there far moore entertaining. Yes I love your accurate observations of the bizarre world of women in 737s,
Yes it is torturous napkin alert, chux alert but you must be a man I am sure only women understands these strange rituals
or very anal alternative males with immaculate grooming
don't insult demented crystal meth atics there far moore entertaining. Yes I love your accurate observations of the bizarre world of women in 737s,
Yes it is torturous napkin alert, chux alert but you must be a man I am sure only women understands these strange rituals
or very anal alternative males with immaculate grooming
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LOL. Heterosexual men can be anal retentive when it comes to nasal hair trimming you know. Yes I am a Friend of Dorothy.....though I got tired of walking with that self-centred girl along the yellow brick road and decided to make my own way to the Emerald City.
Sorry to offend anyone....I'm not having a swipe at individuals....more at the institution and culture than individual people. Its all good babe....there's still love in my heart....every now and then we need to step back and take a look at ourselves from a different perspective.
I could give Pan Ann so much material on the Domestics, that she could make 2 movie length feature films.....
Once again.....no malice or hatred to anyone....just poking fun for the sake of a (cheap and perhaps immature) laugh.
Sorry to offend anyone....I'm not having a swipe at individuals....more at the institution and culture than individual people. Its all good babe....there's still love in my heart....every now and then we need to step back and take a look at ourselves from a different perspective.
I could give Pan Ann so much material on the Domestics, that she could make 2 movie length feature films.....
Once again.....no malice or hatred to anyone....just poking fun for the sake of a (cheap and perhaps immature) laugh.
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Can I ask that everyone removes the image of all S/H crew being beehives. HELLO !! It's 2009 !! We're a different bunch now....we are all mostly early to late 20's,30's,40's. Times have changed..yes there is still a few of the oldies getting around, but there is also a lot of crew that were hired back in 1999&2000 which means that many of us have now been flying at least 10 years and don't deserve that label.
Yes I'm over tuckshop arms, fat bums and awful attempts at hair from some of them. I use their silly chux to wipe my hands, I don't let them use the whole jumpseat soley for their bum, I sign in first at the hotel and if I want a salad - I'LL BLOODY HAVE IT.
This is the new shorthaul. Beehives do not rule anymore. GEN X and Y are here. It's all about me me me. Blah Blah Blah.
We don't care about flying L/H...yes some do, but seriously most don't.
Don't worry about S/H stealing your flying, worry about Jitconnuct and QCCA .
Finally, I hope no-one loses their job. We are all NICE people.
Domestos - seriously...you rock....hilarious !! I look forward to your next post. Keep it coming.
Yes I'm over tuckshop arms, fat bums and awful attempts at hair from some of them. I use their silly chux to wipe my hands, I don't let them use the whole jumpseat soley for their bum, I sign in first at the hotel and if I want a salad - I'LL BLOODY HAVE IT.
This is the new shorthaul. Beehives do not rule anymore. GEN X and Y are here. It's all about me me me. Blah Blah Blah.
We don't care about flying L/H...yes some do, but seriously most don't.
Don't worry about S/H stealing your flying, worry about Jitconnuct and QCCA .
Finally, I hope no-one loses their job. We are all NICE people.
Domestos - seriously...you rock....hilarious !! I look forward to your next post. Keep it coming.
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See even Ep's are a DRAMA for your wife. She has been flying 30 years you say? Gezz I have a quick flick the night before after 30 years and an amendment here and there I see no point in putting myself under such stress for something that should be well and truely entrenched in her by now. I could only imagine what she must be like to work with.
Domestos.... loving it. All sooooo very true.
See even Ep's are a DRAMA for your wife. She has been flying 30 years you say? Gezz I have a quick flick the night before after 30 years and an amendment here and there I see no point in putting myself under such stress for something that should be well and truely entrenched in her by now. I could only imagine what she must be like to work with.
Domestos.... loving it. All sooooo very true.