Qantas to Axe 100 Senior Execs
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Twiggs,as the TV show goes
eal or No Deal
If I remember correctly,you said 'NO DEAL', so any offer prunezeuss said is null and void.
Since you did not take up his offer,you must not have been too sure of your position or facts either
eal or No DealIf I remember correctly,you said 'NO DEAL', so any offer prunezeuss said is null and void.
Since you did not take up his offer,you must not have been too sure of your position or facts either
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the same story again and again
what can i say. the revised structure looks like the boys club has been successful in looking after themselves again. change of titles from GGM to EM. what a joke!! AJ, you stuffed up big time!!!!
nothing is going to change!
nothing is going to change!
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The other thing which is disappointing is that those who were rumoured to be going will take this as an endorsement of their abilities and work.
I knew this was to good to be true.
I knew this was to good to be true.
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Bad Hat, go to the website and look it up yourself, but the third one may still be around, just not listed in those specific 4 layers.
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twiggs,you might have noticed that this is a rumour network and you were asked if you didn't agree with prunzeuss' post to accept an offer which you declined.
If you thought his post was so outlandish you could have taken up his offer but you chickened out.
So at least he was willing and had the integrity to back up his information unlike you.
If you thought his post was so outlandish you could have taken up his offer but you chickened out.
So at least he was willing and had the integrity to back up his information unlike you.
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The biggest example of this stupid tactic of course is Jetstar....
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no one from Cabin Services has gone!
they have just changed the titles and the printer will print new business cards and the sign writers will paint new name plates and the music keeps playing and no one has to worry about a chair not being there
they have just changed the titles and the printer will print new business cards and the sign writers will paint new name plates and the music keeps playing and no one has to worry about a chair not being there
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All I've spoken to are gutted at what looks like on face value a missed opportunity to reinvigorate our department.
It looks like more of the same.
Unimaginative, self serving, dysfunctional feminazis and their handbags hell bent on micro managing the department into oblivion. Talk about, "Nero fiddling while Rome burns".
I hope and pray that today is just a precursor to serious change and I know that I speak for many when I say that our staff are desperate for some real leadership.
The type of people who might actively be interested in what happens onboard as opposed to the ones we have now who only know it as some vague, ethereal concept [sometimes viewable] from 4A.
How about a return to the values of honesty, integrity, decency and the ability to inspire? The company and it's staff deserve as much.
I distinctly remember the HEAD of Cabin Services working down the back on a cart to LA and back and it wasn't all that long ago. Well 10 years I suppose.
Go on Alan. Re-engage us.
I dare you...........
It looks like more of the same.
Unimaginative, self serving, dysfunctional feminazis and their handbags hell bent on micro managing the department into oblivion. Talk about, "Nero fiddling while Rome burns".
I hope and pray that today is just a precursor to serious change and I know that I speak for many when I say that our staff are desperate for some real leadership.
The type of people who might actively be interested in what happens onboard as opposed to the ones we have now who only know it as some vague, ethereal concept [sometimes viewable] from 4A.
How about a return to the values of honesty, integrity, decency and the ability to inspire? The company and it's staff deserve as much.
I distinctly remember the HEAD of Cabin Services working down the back on a cart to LA and back and it wasn't all that long ago. Well 10 years I suppose.
Go on Alan. Re-engage us.
I dare you...........
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AJ does not make the decisions.... he is fed the info to release.
So disappointing .... Perhaps AJ should get an email to read these forums....
then he will see the true sentiment of his "disengaged" staff.
The company has been compromised by a generation of unprofessional amateurs who consistently sabotage everything that our predecessors had tried so hard to achieve to make Qantas a world leader in everything it did.
Have a look at the "Cornflake dipolma" mafia who come into a position they know nothing about to change things they know nothing about, and when it goes all wrong.....?? Thats right..... nothing but a few title changes and the odd position re arrangement.
Why am I not surprised? Because on a board level, the same thing happens. All these old crusty bits of dead wood who have contributed jack to anything,
just all drift aimlessly between the same companies boards collecting millions along the way....
Thats why nothing changes and nothing of any substance gets achieved.
The rot has set in.
Im drifting a bit here... and ranting a bit as well...
Im just over the whole thing......
Im done
So disappointing .... Perhaps AJ should get an email to read these forums....
then he will see the true sentiment of his "disengaged" staff.
The company has been compromised by a generation of unprofessional amateurs who consistently sabotage everything that our predecessors had tried so hard to achieve to make Qantas a world leader in everything it did.
Have a look at the "Cornflake dipolma" mafia who come into a position they know nothing about to change things they know nothing about, and when it goes all wrong.....?? Thats right..... nothing but a few title changes and the odd position re arrangement.
Why am I not surprised? Because on a board level, the same thing happens. All these old crusty bits of dead wood who have contributed jack to anything,
just all drift aimlessly between the same companies boards collecting millions along the way....
Thats why nothing changes and nothing of any substance gets achieved.
The rot has set in.
Im drifting a bit here... and ranting a bit as well...
Im just over the whole thing......
Im done
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This news is disheartening because it shows that AJ has missed a chance to reinvigorate Cabin Services which is a major part of the airline.
This is either another example of wanting to be seen to be doing something without really doing anything.....or AJ is being fed the wrong information.
I remember Winnie addressing a group of CSM's and telling us that crew were basically lazy in not trying to challenge themselves and try a new direction in their career.This was seen at the time as an attempt by her to try and get around the seniority system of which she was never a fan.
This was somewhat hypocritical of her when you remember what happened to her and how she reacted when she was told to leave the building.
This latest news is like a fishing trip story in which the biggest fish that had been seen in years had come close to being landed but in the end got away......yet again.
This is either another example of wanting to be seen to be doing something without really doing anything.....or AJ is being fed the wrong information.
I remember Winnie addressing a group of CSM's and telling us that crew were basically lazy in not trying to challenge themselves and try a new direction in their career.This was seen at the time as an attempt by her to try and get around the seniority system of which she was never a fan.
This was somewhat hypocritical of her when you remember what happened to her and how she reacted when she was told to leave the building.
This latest news is like a fishing trip story in which the biggest fish that had been seen in years had come close to being landed but in the end got away......yet again.
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Grapevine Failure
Fist time I have known the Qantas Grapevine to fail...extremely disappointing.
Cabin Services is long over due for a purge.
Their survival will be seen as an endorsement of what they are doing.
This is not the way to re engage a workforce
Cabin Services is long over due for a purge.
Their survival will be seen as an endorsement of what they are doing.
This is not the way to re engage a workforce
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According to todays AFR, that was only round 1 .............
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...will target another round of senior job cuts next month
Yesterdays changes affected the two layers of management below the airlines executive committee, which reports directly to Mr Joyce
The next stage will target the layers below these
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senior ex's axed
hey this is not all about bun-tossers its about all parts of the company....good to see the fly-um fix-um and feed-um under one banner again and hopefully this new bloke LS can get it right and hopefully they will get rid of the deadwood...and as posted in another thread i have said that now MH and DC are gone the mangers that are left should be able to step out from under their desks and lead ...if not get the hell out of dodge