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Old 8th Oct 2009, 03:41
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Neville - I saw a YouTube video that describe how much their pilot gets, like 20-30k us. That looks very little, but when you compare the cost of a box of cereal of .99 dollar. It is compariable to the regional pilots of oz.
No it ain't!!! me!!!
Check this out. If you averaged 75 hours a month here is your FO pay at Colgan the airline that crashed at Buffalo. These guys have bases all up the east coast one is in NYC. Do you think you could live in NYC on this sort of moeny??

FO Q400
1st year $18 900
2nd year $23 400
3rd year $24 300
4th year $25 200
5th year $26 100
and so it goes......that ain't anything like Australian regional salaries.

And that is why the FO on that crash was living in her parents basement with her husband and commuting across the country.
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Old 8th Oct 2009, 04:41
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what a fool i've been then. i should have been eating kellogs crunchy nut with clusters instead of living it up on subway and some may think that to be extravagent.

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Old 13th Oct 2009, 09:55
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Hope I don't get murdered posting thisbut here goes, Anyone on the hold file with start yet?

I know the website says progressing slowly, but I am gonna be an old man soon.
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Old 13th Oct 2009, 12:46
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but I am gonna be an old man soon
Feel your pain, I get old waiting for them to fly a circuit or an RNAV. Confirm that ETA??

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Old 13th Oct 2009, 22:52
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Whats the equivalent Qantaslink salary range for FOs/Capts?
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Old 13th Oct 2009, 23:46
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FO starts around $54k, maybe $58k on the 400
4 year Captain starts around $89k, over $105k for 10yr+ Captain on Q400

add to these at least $5k per year in overnight expenses, sometimes a lot more.

not bad for a part time job...
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Old 14th Oct 2009, 02:12
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Part time job Roger??

Looks like they are getting ready to recruit DE FO's again. Emails have been sent out to update files before Oct 18th.
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Old 14th Oct 2009, 02:24
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It may just be a combination of GFC, over-recruiting in 07/08 and schedule reduction but the rosters have been very light the past 12 months. 40-50 duty hours every 4 weeks is hardly full time employment!
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Old 14th Oct 2009, 02:52
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Don't you get paid the same anyway? More time off. Sounds ideal really.
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Old 14th Oct 2009, 04:26
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We don't get extra time off rostered. We just get given more reserve days. It usually ends up being a day off so it's kinda ideal.

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Old 15th Oct 2009, 06:47
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40-50 duty hours every 4 weeks
What!! As a BN based Q400 FO we have been doing 70-75 flight hours per 4 week roster over the last3 months.

Feel your pain, I get old waiting for them to fly a circuit or an RNAV. Confirm that ETA??
Last time I checked, the ETA was a circuit time not a touchdown time.
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 11:34
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We don't get extra time off rostered. We just get given more reserve days. It usually ends up being a day off so it's kinda ideal.
Actually no, a reserve day is not ideal and that's the problem. Unfortunately our EBA says that we only get a minimum of 8 days off so that's what they give - even if it means 12 days of reserve. A reserve day is still considered a work day! For the love of God don't start treating it as a DDO if you happen not to get called otherwise come next year for the EAA EBA, we'll have everyone accepting 8 days off again whilst they send us on 5 day trips up the Brisbane!

There is a reason why Virgin crews get a minimum of 12 days off a roster - it's because they do longer trips. Somehow we're copping 3-5 day trips without any additional days off to compensate. For some reason people view allowances as the extra payment for consecutive overnights which again, is completely wrong!

Apart from certain issues, it is still generally a great job. The EBA just needs some work in certain areas next year.
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 11:46
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Last time I checked, the ETA was a circuit time not a touchdown time.
True, but when you read the ETA off the whizz bang gear when you're coming down the hill, and then slow to 140-150kts by 10 miles and don't modify your ETA, it gets a bit frustrating...
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 23:16
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We don't get extra time off rostered. We just get given more reserve days. It usually ends up being a day off so it's kinda ideal.

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Maloo,
You maybe suffering from head trauma, or is it the naivety of youth? A reserve/standby day is NOT a day off nor is it ideal. Many aviation professionals have a life that involves more than just themselves and their over inflated ego’s. Rostered days of grey do not allow for family’s to make concrete plans in advance nor does Mr Childcare facility accept a request for a position to be permanently made available, in case my employer wants me to work as they can’t make up there mind what is going on. A few days here and there on reserve is an accepted part of the job in order for schedule coverage, beyond this is just pure rostering incompetence. "I am not as indecisive as I once was.. Maybe I am.. Oh I’m not sure now.. Let’s just put them all on reserve". Or is it that we can do it so we will, which makes it worse, draconian management pratice “sir the peasants are revolting”. As we head down a path where the company would love to have 300 casual tech crew I am comforted to know that this is ideal for you.

So Maloo, as you lie there in bed of a night gazing at your freshly polished epaulettes’ (still enclosed in the plastic wrapper), I can almost hear the Coxswain’s words drifting through your head “stroke, stroke, stroke…….”
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Old 15th Oct 2009, 23:16
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Thank You!

For the love of God don't start treating it as a DDO if you happen not to get called otherwise come next year for the EAA EBA, we'll have everyone accepting 8 days off again whilst they send us on 5 day trips up the Brisbane!
That needs to be reposted.

(And again early next year)

DIVOSH!
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 04:18
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The EBA just needs some work in certain areas next year
Do you think you would like to join the pilot council! now is the time to think about the EBA (eastern's) that is due july 1 2010

If you cant get the big bucks then it boils down to life style....
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 08:25
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Reserve days suck for those who lives far far away. It pretty much means most of the time you are on house arrest, or you decided to go out for a bite, and your phone magically starts ringing.

8 days off isn't so bad, and the 3-5 days trip is currently temporary. However, what I hate is the fact that they roster you 6 days straight, one day off, and another 6 days straight. What is the deal with that?! The upstairs people need to wake up.

I like how the schedule is picking up. It would gets interesting next year.
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 10:53
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Apparently...

As soon as you submit just one roster bid, doesn't matter what it is, that automatically removes the rostering protections provided by the EBA, ie paired days off around a 6 day duty and an attempt to give you at least one weekend off per roster.
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 10:56
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Tell me its not true that you guys seriously agreed in an EBA to allow SINGLE days off? And Res is a DUTY whether you go anywhere or not (thought Airline pilots were supposed to have a clue )
Bubble Head: 8 days off for a pilot who can be rostered to work on ANY day of the year, and outside of office hours, with no Public Holiday loading, is APPALLING!!!! What happened to compensation for availability 365 days (or 366 when req'd)...........
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Old 16th Oct 2009, 11:07
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What happened to compensation for availability 365 days (or 366 when req'd)

That's where the 6 weeks annual leave comes in, instead of the normal 4?
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