Qantas Link in Crisis again....now its for Captains!
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That's only true for the intial rostering. If you check your roster again after a reserve day on which you haven't been called, you'll see it reverts to zero duty hours.
So whilst it's not a day off from an EBA point of view, once you haven't been called on that day, from a CAO point of view it is. What a joke.
That's only true for the intial rostering. If you check your roster again after a reserve day on which you haven't been called, you'll see it reverts to zero duty hours.
So whilst it's not a day off from an EBA point of view, once you haven't been called on that day, from a CAO point of view it is. What a joke.
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CAO48 is somewhat nebulous on this matter. Although it mentions reserve at the airport being considered as duty, it makes no mention of reserve at home. Therefore IMHO I wouldn't interpret reserve at home as an RDO, because it isn't ROSTERED as an RDO. I think the company knows that, and you can't change the rules to suit yourself (changing a no callout to a RDO after the fact).
As Grrowler wrote, just wait until you get a full flying roster back. You'll have your arses hanging out, getting called on every reserve day. Check your EBA regarding contactability too. Some (not all) crewing staff might even try to call you while you're in a rest period when times are busy. If so, you need to start a new rest period if you're interrupted. Keep that in mind.
Somehow, single days off will lose their appeal
As Grrowler wrote, just wait until you get a full flying roster back. You'll have your arses hanging out, getting called on every reserve day. Check your EBA regarding contactability too. Some (not all) crewing staff might even try to call you while you're in a rest period when times are busy. If so, you need to start a new rest period if you're interrupted. Keep that in mind.
Somehow, single days off will lose their appeal
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WATERFALLS123 QUOTE: "Interesting thread, reading it as an outsider. How is Qlink experiencing a qualified pilot shortage when there seems to be an oversupply of qualified pilots in the worldwide market place? Do you have to be Australian in order to fly for Qlink?"
Well, It may have something to do with the wankers at Qantas who set out the minimum requirements to be eligible for employment. Perhaps if they took a reality check and dropped the Higher School Certificate or equivalent requirement, they would have a truckload of much more experienced pilots apply.
Why is it that Q is the only carrier in the country that have this requirement? Seems to me they've only got themselves to blame when it comes to finding experience up front. I'm sure there are a lot of 30-40-50 year old ATPL holders who don't have their HSC, and are happily trucking around in wide bodies and the like.
When the **** hits the fan up there, fancy essay writing wont save your life.
My heart bleeds for you Q.
Well, It may have something to do with the wankers at Qantas who set out the minimum requirements to be eligible for employment. Perhaps if they took a reality check and dropped the Higher School Certificate or equivalent requirement, they would have a truckload of much more experienced pilots apply.
Why is it that Q is the only carrier in the country that have this requirement? Seems to me they've only got themselves to blame when it comes to finding experience up front. I'm sure there are a lot of 30-40-50 year old ATPL holders who don't have their HSC, and are happily trucking around in wide bodies and the like.
When the **** hits the fan up there, fancy essay writing wont save your life.
My heart bleeds for you Q.
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While I see your point, I hardly think the HSC requirement affects all that many people. Finishing year 12 is not a lot to ask of an aspiring airline pilot.
Maybe for people who went to school x amount of years ago this could be waived.
Maybe for people who went to school x amount of years ago this could be waived.
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A reserve day can't satisfy the provisions of a CAO day off.
CAO 48.12 (my bold)
A pilot shall not commence a flight and an operator shall not roster the pilot for a flight unless during the 7 days period terminating co-incident with the termination of the flight he or she has been relieved from all duty associated with his or her employment for at least 1 continuous period embracing the hours between 10 pm and 6 am on 2 consecutive nights.
Reserve is clearly not a "tour of duty" under the orders but it is nevertheless "duty associated with his or her employment" whether you get called out or not.
CAO 48.12 (my bold)
A pilot shall not commence a flight and an operator shall not roster the pilot for a flight unless during the 7 days period terminating co-incident with the termination of the flight he or she has been relieved from all duty associated with his or her employment for at least 1 continuous period embracing the hours between 10 pm and 6 am on 2 consecutive nights.
Reserve is clearly not a "tour of duty" under the orders but it is nevertheless "duty associated with his or her employment" whether you get called out or not.
Interceptor,
You don't need an HSC if you have a completed university degree...
I'm not saying that people with an HSC/Degree are any better/smarter (although the rest of the corporate world certainly does hold a candidate with a degree in higher esteem), but whilst there are still suitable applicants out there with either/both of the above then you won't see that requirement dropped. Why would they?
Rgds.
You don't need an HSC if you have a completed university degree...
I'm not saying that people with an HSC/Degree are any better/smarter (although the rest of the corporate world certainly does hold a candidate with a degree in higher esteem), but whilst there are still suitable applicants out there with either/both of the above then you won't see that requirement dropped. Why would they?
Rgds.
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no more direct entry?
Well if they follow the lead of Rex then they will simply recruit cadets instead of direct entry crew to solve the retention problem.
Jim Davis - MD of Rex said in the current edition of Australian Aviation:
"Rex's long term solution is the establishment of its own pilot training school and cadet pilot training scheme."
"If we get a cadet with 200 hours a big airline isn't going to poach him in six months, if we recruit somebody from General Aviation with 5000hours, a big airline could very likely poach him before he's even finished training. With cadet pilots it will be several years before the larger airlines start to pick them up, and by then we will have had some return from them."
Jim Davis - MD of Rex said in the current edition of Australian Aviation:
"Rex's long term solution is the establishment of its own pilot training school and cadet pilot training scheme."
"If we get a cadet with 200 hours a big airline isn't going to poach him in six months, if we recruit somebody from General Aviation with 5000hours, a big airline could very likely poach him before he's even finished training. With cadet pilots it will be several years before the larger airlines start to pick them up, and by then we will have had some return from them."
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The only problem with this recruitment of cadets idea is twofold: command eligibility (fixed with an ICUS program); and if there is an ICUS program cadets will gain the experience in less than 2 years, pay their remaining bond out (if not already paid out after 2 years) and move on to greener pastures. Cadet programs alone wont solve the looming regional crisis ... $$$ and/or lifestyle will. Unfortunately both are being eroded away.
The only problem with this recruitment of cadets idea is twofold: command eligibility (fixed with an ICUS program); and if there is an ICUS program cadets will gain the experience in less than 2 years, pay their remaining bond out (if not already paid out after 2 years) and move on to greener pastures. Cadet programs alone wont solve the looming regional crisis ... $$$ and/or lifestyle will. Unfortunately both are being eroded away.
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Hey All
Just got knocked back for a cathay cadetship so i'm going to head west to take the scenic route. before I go has anyone heard anything about Qlink cadets making a comeback recently??
Just got knocked back for a cathay cadetship so i'm going to head west to take the scenic route. before I go has anyone heard anything about Qlink cadets making a comeback recently??
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ICUS is already part of a CASA approved company manual. The only thing in the pipe at the moment is command endorsements for FOs. Given that most airlines issue command type endorsements (as I understand: Rex, VB, JQ, QF - willing to be corrected), and given that QL FOs have completed all elements of the command training syllabus, I can't see why the regulator should be holding things up.
I know that some smaller regionals issue command endos to FOs after a few hours in an aircraft and zero sim time (no V1 cuts, actual engine failures etc.). Same FOs immediately log ICUS and obtain ATPL.
I know that some smaller regionals issue command endos to FOs after a few hours in an aircraft and zero sim time (no V1 cuts, actual engine failures etc.). Same FOs immediately log ICUS and obtain ATPL.
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With the greatest respect for all you guys getting flogged at Qlink, may I suggest if you don't like it - leave.
I did.
Much happier now.
I did.
Much happier now.
Virgin Blue is again accepting applications for flight crew.
Here: Virgin Blue Recruitment: Attention
Get your applications in
You won't regret it 
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Serious question - have they hired back the guys who were made redundant earlier in the year?
(Way off topic here, but what the hell. This thread hasn't stuck to topic for about 14 pages)
(Way off topic here, but what the hell. This thread hasn't stuck to topic for about 14 pages)
Hugh that link works fine but when you actually go to the careers section on the VB website I can't seem to find anything other than accepting interest for PB techies. Am I missing something?
