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Old 14th Sep 2008, 11:20
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To true Wiley, each generation has had the same thing said about them, but the difference is drugs, parents who change partners every few years, and the do gooders who protect these little Shi%s in what is known as the court system (for want of a better word). I don't know about you, but I loved my old man, but he would belt the shi% out of you, if you treated anyone without respect, and it did me no harm. The world cannot stay the same, but surely the basic principles can, to treat others as you would like to be treated. Up here on the Gold Coast things are going from bad to worse, the kids destroy for the sake of destroying, cars, gardens, public parks, boats, you name it, they will do it. Why? They would be prime subjects to put into national service, to learn a trade, to learn respect, to learn bush survival, but mate it would be like trying to teach a fish how to ride a bike, they have no fear of the law, in fact they hurl insults at the police, and anybody else who gets in their way, some of them as young as ten. Some carry knives, and chains an essential item for going out on Fri night. I am generalising of course, and there are many great kids here to, but you don't get to hear about them, but the local news every nite makes you want to go bush. Fair dinkum.
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Old 14th Sep 2008, 22:09
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The Navy fella's won't get a great deal of flying in the green, dare I say it most of us junior guys are 'current' but not 'proficient'. Barely enough ROE to share the love as it is.
Less than 200hrs per year... yeah I am ready to deploy..
Are you Army mate? I thought they were flogging you guys to death!

If you're Navy, well nuff said!
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Old 14th Sep 2008, 23:13
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Kevin Dudd just wants to have an aircraft carrier named after him -HMAS Kevin.

The more I watch the TV series The Hollowmen, the more I realise it is very close to the truth.
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Old 15th Sep 2008, 02:50
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Originally Posted by teresa green
...but where are you going to get the Warrant Officers to deal with the rabble you are going to get?
Originally Posted by Wiley
I agree the Army doesn't have the manpower, especially in the vital SNCO area, to handle even a relatively small selective service system
Having just left training command, where we had a perennial shortage of good senior CPLs & SGTs, and posted back to LAND, I am overjoyed to find that we have (drum roll please .....) a shortage of good senior CPLs & SGTs.

YIPPEE!

Let's hope the gummint addresses retention before they buy anything else they have to fit for but not with ....

I mean REALLY address retention, not just throw $20k bonuses at a few jobs they think might leave soon. Put everything on the table, work practices, work locations, stability, boarding schools, spouse employment, part time work, EVERYTHING.
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Old 15th Sep 2008, 05:28
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I mean REALLY address retention, not just throw $20k bonuses at a few jobs they think might leave soon. Put everything on the table, work practices, work locations, stability, boarding schools, spouse employment, part time work, EVERYTHING.
Absolutely agree.

Defence members represent a cross section of the community, with the same needs and problems. Lifestyle issues desparately need to be addressed.
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Old 15th Sep 2008, 08:52
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Captain,

Yep I am Army, no I am definately not getting flogged to death. There are a very select few who get a reasonable amount of hours...Those on operations (for obvious reasons) and a handfull of others (including QFI's)
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Old 15th Sep 2008, 09:30
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Flogging to death costs money.

That was the issue when the army sold Beazley on the advantages of taking the RW. No need for all that expensive currency stuff, truckdrivers don't need it.
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