MERGED: Qantas Decompression ?
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Well its been said by the ALAEA for a while now, that is that the system has been degraded to a point where a major incident was looming and that it was only a matter of time. The ALAEA were right unfortunately, thank GOD we did not lose that Hull, it’s about time the guardians of safety were shown a lot of respect and the incompetent people at the top responsible are held to task.
To the media, do you think the Australian public should be satisfied with paying a premium for a service that is flawed, let me see, 747 400’s VH OJO and VH OJQ staples in the Emergency Egress wiring, possible result pax unable to find path to exit in dark or smoke filled cabin. DO YOU EXPECT AN ORGANISATION TO BE PERFECT, well Sir the public do expect that from your organisation. VH OJM, 4 off Generator failure, aircraft has no power other than standby battery and is twenty to thirty minutes from ditching. Latest serious incident VH OJK, has major structural failure and is very lucky to land at all, check out the story about United’s door failure and how may pax ended up in number three engine. Very similar!
Please go and look at these incidents and talk to the people that maintain, or sorry, attempt to maintain the standard. No Geoff, the unions are not playing the safety card, your system is failing and you have forgotten or perhaps you never knew that safety is no accident.
To the media, do you think the Australian public should be satisfied with paying a premium for a service that is flawed, let me see, 747 400’s VH OJO and VH OJQ staples in the Emergency Egress wiring, possible result pax unable to find path to exit in dark or smoke filled cabin. DO YOU EXPECT AN ORGANISATION TO BE PERFECT, well Sir the public do expect that from your organisation. VH OJM, 4 off Generator failure, aircraft has no power other than standby battery and is twenty to thirty minutes from ditching. Latest serious incident VH OJK, has major structural failure and is very lucky to land at all, check out the story about United’s door failure and how may pax ended up in number three engine. Very similar!
Please go and look at these incidents and talk to the people that maintain, or sorry, attempt to maintain the standard. No Geoff, the unions are not playing the safety card, your system is failing and you have forgotten or perhaps you never knew that safety is no accident.
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"Ladies and gentlemen - the reason your flight was delayed (descended) is because of the current LAMEs PIA and Go Slow campaign".
Whoops, one week too late .. bummer. Next excuse.
Whoops, one week too late .. bummer. Next excuse.
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Hey Muzzer take your vitriol and disdain for Geoff to the other 'serious' thread, we are having fun in here...
Once there, you may notice it has been pointed out that this aircraft is maintained in AUSTRALIA, albeit by contractors...
Once there, you may notice it has been pointed out that this aircraft is maintained in AUSTRALIA, albeit by contractors...
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we all know a lot questions will be asked -
1. IED?
2. OXY BOTTLE?
3. FATIGUE CRACKING?
4.THE CLOSURE OF H245 B744 HEAVY MAINT AND THE CONTRACTING OUT OF MAINT INCLUDING AVV.
5. MANAGEMENTS ROLL IN THIS
1. IED?
2. OXY BOTTLE?
3. FATIGUE CRACKING?
4.THE CLOSURE OF H245 B744 HEAVY MAINT AND THE CONTRACTING OUT OF MAINT INCLUDING AVV.
5. MANAGEMENTS ROLL IN THIS
Just have to standby and wait for the outcome..
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If I had to bet on the cause, my money would be on undeclared Dangerous Goods in the hold...
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Can't put too much credence in your 'possibility'. The rest of wing-to-body fairings stayed attached, they would have had plenty of airflow after the first one parted ship. Also the departure of the structure missing wouldn't have opened up one of the pax luggage cans as pictured.
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Thanks Millet. I thought that if explosive decom is strong enough to collapse a floor of an airliner then it could easily suck some contents out of a ULD. Alot of ULD's loaded onboard are not well secured. There may also have been a pallet loaded on, or some empty space in the hold, allowing the ULD to have some contents sucked out. Either way, 8 psi diff escaping from that hole is alot of force.
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Have not read the thread but you will be pleased to know that as far as OZ ATC knew QFA30 was still coming as we had details that put the aircraft within the airspace then we called the Air Traffic Control Centre of Excellence in Indonesia who said 'Ummm whaaat? Whhhooo? We know nothing, we have no estimates for QFA30'
They did not pick up that the thing never showed up and our OZ flight data dudes tracked down the aircraft in Manilla.
Outstanding.
They did not pick up that the thing never showed up and our OZ flight data dudes tracked down the aircraft in Manilla.
Outstanding.
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Makes the bottom line look good.
A little hole thats all.... or air leak!
Its not a major problem just like a little water in the MEC.
Maintenance who needs it?
A little hole thats all.... or air leak!
Its not a major problem just like a little water in the MEC.
Maintenance who needs it?
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where is the skin of the cargo container - and why has it ruptured?
The aluminium skin of the baggage containers is very thin and would be easily ruptured (ie blown apart) by the force of an oxy bottle letting go. The fuselage skin is much stronger but was no match for this force.
where is the skin of the cargo container - and why has it ruptured?
The aluminium skin of the baggage containers is very thin and would be easily ruptured (ie blown apart) by the force of an oxy bottle letting go. The fuselage skin is much stronger but was no match for this force.
or are these stronger units, due to costs, 'optional extras' 
Good work by all the onboard crew
