MERGED: Qantas Decompression ?
Interesting article...
This was mentioned earlier in this thread, on the first day in fact.
Good work Ben Sandilands, I know you're reading
Had this occurred say mid way to Johannesburg, or somewhere between Los Angeles and Australia, the jet, forced to fly at less than 10,000 feet would have consumed much more fuel than normal, and it could have all ended rather badly.
Good work Ben Sandilands, I know you're reading
AD to check bottle mounts months ago
Good work Ben Sandilands
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Had this occurred say mid way to Johannesburg, or somewhere between Los Angeles and Australia, the jet, forced to fly at less than 10,000 feet would have consumed much more fuel than normal, and it could have all ended rather badly.
The airlines must have all gone downhill fast since I stopped flying.
What ill-informed crap!
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man, if this was a bottle (either O2 or cargo fire) I will be very surprised.
Something must've gone really really wrong.
To me it still looks like something in the baggage/freight. Whether it caused the hole or upset the bottle. But a bottle on it's own?
Really looking forward to finding out for sure, the suspense is unbearable!
Something must've gone really really wrong.
To me it still looks like something in the baggage/freight. Whether it caused the hole or upset the bottle. But a bottle on it's own?
Really looking forward to finding out for sure, the suspense is unbearable!
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It was a Pax O2 bottle. Pieces of it were found in the main cabin. Ben Sandilands, you seem to believe everything you are told. Maybe you shouldn't?
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Some computer functions and electrics were affected - all 3 ILS shut down and the Capt’s FMC.
ILS: VOR/ILS antenna cables damaged? May have worked during approach if LOC or APP mode had been selected?
FMC: Weird... I wonder if the shrapnel pierced the Main Equipment Centre? Surely the FMC is protected from sensor input shorts (FQIS, etc)?
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Trojan 1981, you and Ben Sandilands obviously have no idea of flight planning considerations on a long haul sector over water. All possible contingencies, including depressurization are caterd for with suitable PNRs and diversion capabilities.
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like it or not ben sandilands and peter harbison seem to be the go to "experts" on all things aviation.
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...my understanding is that LSALT is above the max. altitude the engines are certified to be relit. Last time I think I went over Afghanistan, LSALT just a bit lower.
Now, if the oxygen system is responsible for a depressurisation, where do we stand as regards a diverting aircraft flying above 10,000 feet for an extended time with insufficient oxygen to supply the passengers for the duration?
I hope the full implications of an unprecedented, unexplained and unexplainable aircraft oxygen system bottle explosion are becoming clear.
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good post blacksheep.
If indeed the cause is a ballistic o2 cylinder [as it seems to be, if one can believe anything ] your inference will have the boffins scratching their heads raw.
How indeed?
Chem gen's the size of a suitcase?
If indeed the cause is a ballistic o2 cylinder [as it seems to be, if one can believe anything ] your inference will have the boffins scratching their heads raw.
How indeed?
Chem gen's the size of a suitcase?
All possible contingencies, including depressurization are catered for with suitable PNRs and diversion capabilities.
Qantas is no different to all the others! It's all about costs.
Flightplans are just that. A Plan. They bare no resemblance to the real world!
As a FlightPlanner once told me...
"It's a calculated risk! We make the calculations, and YOU take the risks!
How true!!!
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Well Capt. you are entitled to your opinion, BS or not.
Not all airlines are like yours or Qantas, I was involved in the flight planning of a 14 hour long haul sector in a previous life, which would not have been possible if all contingecies were not taken into consideration. Depressurization formed a large part of that.
Qantas is no different to all the others! It's all about costs.
Flightplans are just that. A Plan. They bare no resemblance to the real world!
Flightplans are just that. A Plan. They bare no resemblance to the real world!