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Relax feel free to talk about BKK if you wish (QF engineering was up there putting it back together), and as I said before those that play down Qantas engineering are usually those that have never turned a spanner on an aircraft or worked in Sydney Heavy. 9 times out of ten they are manager's who are trying to justify shutting it down and outsourcing. I can only share what I have seen.
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The Captains name has been mentioned, but what about the First Officer and Third Pilot - relief Capt? Would like to see their names also up in lights as no doubt it is was a sterling crew effort.
Also congrats to the cabin crew for a job well done - from passenger reports in the media you did a great job!
I hope Geoff Dixon personally congratulates you all!
Also congrats to the cabin crew for a job well done - from passenger reports in the media you did a great job!
I hope Geoff Dixon personally congratulates you all!
The Captains name has been mentioned, but what about the First Officer and Third Pilot - relief Capt? Would like to see their names also up in lights as no doubt it is was a sterling crew effort.
Also congrats to the cabin crew for a job well done - from passenger reports in the media you did a great job!
Also congrats to the cabin crew for a job well done - from passenger reports in the media you did a great job!
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Qantas Corporate Insider of Mascot. You are 100% incorrect. Knowing one of the guys who was instrumental in returning OJH to the fleet I know for a fact that the repair job was significantly cheaper than the used value for the airframe let alone a new replacement airframe.
Posted by: Keg of Sydney 5:12pm July 25, 2008
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Posted by: Keg of Sydney 5:12pm July 25, 2008
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NGineer, do QF engineers supervise maintenance done by external engineering facilities?? Do they sign off that maintenance on completion?
Honest answer required please.
I'm not attempting to put engineers down; I believe they are underpaid and deserve better, but do they supervise that overseas maintenance?
Trojan, you're right. The other crew members should be mentioned in dispatches. I dont think for a second that any of them are heroes, merely doing their jobs, (and they were well done) but no mention of them is implying that the Captain did it all alone, and that is quite obviously not the case.
Honest answer required please.
I'm not attempting to put engineers down; I believe they are underpaid and deserve better, but do they supervise that overseas maintenance?
Trojan, you're right. The other crew members should be mentioned in dispatches. I dont think for a second that any of them are heroes, merely doing their jobs, (and they were well done) but no mention of them is implying that the Captain did it all alone, and that is quite obviously not the case.
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Dixon could not personally say anything to any of the crew.
I will fall over if he does, he possesses neither the humanity, humility nor personality to speak to anyone face to face....
I hope he does go and shake all their hands.
That is the Captain, F/O and S/O (or 2) and indeed ALL the cabin crew. To do that would mean "engaging" with the staff. The Oldmeadow playbook doesn't allow a thank you to staff....
I will fall over if he does, he possesses neither the humanity, humility nor personality to speak to anyone face to face....
I hope he does go and shake all their hands.
That is the Captain, F/O and S/O (or 2) and indeed ALL the cabin crew. To do that would mean "engaging" with the staff. The Oldmeadow playbook doesn't allow a thank you to staff....
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Oh and for those that don't know, it may well have been an S/O flying with either of the other two in the other seat. Given their distance from Hong Kong, I suspect either the Captain or the F/O were in the crew rest(which is on the flight deck but a distance away from the control seats) ...Perhaps the as yet unnamed S/O deserves a pat on the back too
As to Bangkok, The ATSB report identifies the systemic failures including the cost cutting measures, inadequate definition relating to pilot flying/ not flying roles and the actions of the pilot not flying. The aircraft itself was in fact serviceable. We were lucky then, we were lucky on QF2 and we were lucky here. Joburg is along way depressurised.........
As to Bangkok, The ATSB report identifies the systemic failures including the cost cutting measures, inadequate definition relating to pilot flying/ not flying roles and the actions of the pilot not flying. The aircraft itself was in fact serviceable. We were lucky then, we were lucky on QF2 and we were lucky here. Joburg is along way depressurised.........
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If the incident occurred north / abeam of Manila, then the s/o would almost certainly been on his/her break.(s/o normally gets first break in a 3 "man" crew, certainly with QF) I'm sure he/he would have done a sterling job if part of the crew on watch at the time.
I have no doubt JB and BW would have done it beautifully.. Is the RPLL 06 ILS still out?
I have no doubt JB and BW would have done it beautifully.. Is the RPLL 06 ILS still out?
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"did you see that flack gun over singapore!!!, they really hate Dixon too"
How much did it cost our brand to see 4 kids crying with the wife looking on with tears and the father say I thought I was going to die...
Ill tell you......500 times what these fools saved by closing and destroying the foundations of a once great airline. But dont worry they spent $500M last year on ads detailing the service our customers dont get because all the service staff are pissed off and the proud history that no longer exists due to foolish cost cutting.
Thats two close calls now, god bless all those that fly and lets hope they can keep our customers safe because there are hundreds of little latent failures now built in just waiting for the cheese to line up.
Cox on TV looked like a scared rabbit, wish his family was onboard so he could see what it all really means. 11km up is a long way down!!!!
How much did it cost our brand to see 4 kids crying with the wife looking on with tears and the father say I thought I was going to die...
Ill tell you......500 times what these fools saved by closing and destroying the foundations of a once great airline. But dont worry they spent $500M last year on ads detailing the service our customers dont get because all the service staff are pissed off and the proud history that no longer exists due to foolish cost cutting.
Thats two close calls now, god bless all those that fly and lets hope they can keep our customers safe because there are hundreds of little latent failures now built in just waiting for the cheese to line up.
Cox on TV looked like a scared rabbit, wish his family was onboard so he could see what it all really means. 11km up is a long way down!!!!
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Have supervised numerous O/S maint checks.
Unfortunately, 2 or 3 QF engineers cannot possibly watch every bloke doing every task. You would also be surprised at the amount of work that gets done in the wee hours...............
Unfortunately, 2 or 3 QF engineers cannot possibly watch every bloke doing every task. You would also be surprised at the amount of work that gets done in the wee hours...............
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The skipper's had enough shocks without shaking Chicken Littles hand. Top performance from all the crew. And from my LAME son, he doubts fatigue (he is engine and airframe) despite all our complaints heavy engineering in QF has been spot on, he maintains a Phase Check would have picked that problem up re corrosion (which it does all the time) and even though QF gives him the Sh#ts he reckons they are still one of the best operators going around. Time will tell.
Does the 744 have panels between the baggage compartment and the cabin designed to fail in the event of a sudden decompression ? Allows the pressure to equalise quickly rather than buckle the cabin floor.
was this the Bangkok airframe?
Haven't had the time to check thru the 12 pages to see if it has been asked.
Was this aircraft the one that was repaired and returned to service after the Bangkok overun accident?
Was this aircraft the one that was repaired and returned to service after the Bangkok overun accident?
Was this aircraft the one that was repaired and returned to service after the Bangkok overun accident?
QF1 BKK overrun VH-OJH
QF2 Bkk AC electrics failure VH-OJM
This Event VH-OJK