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Old 1st Jul 2012, 04:12
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They lost face...

My understanding is Singapore is staying in it to "stick it up 'em!".

Just wait and see what happens when the tiger pounces. Singapore Airlines will make sure it's a success, Scoot too.

just my 2c
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 04:25
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Dr, Pepz said 18/11/2009
KABOY - a bit naive to think that SIA has the time and resources to sit around and burn money on TR just to "look good" and "save face". Singapore is not China and the culture here is by no means "Chinese".

Next, TR is not a subsidiary of SIA. 51% is owned by other shareholders, so SIA cannot unanimously make decisions on what to do with TR.
So Dr.Pepz who's calling the shots in this money burning exercise? Directors don't lose money unless their shareholders are happy to.

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Old 1st Jul 2012, 05:19
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"Just wait and see what happens when the tiger pounces. Singapore Airlines will make sure it's a success, Scoot too."

Tiger have been around for 4years+ now, and never made a profit.
My question is, what are Tiger waiting for before they pounce?
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 09:14
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Go do some research on how Ryan Air progressed.
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 10:55
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Tiger's problems over the years are a direct result of one incompetent CEO, who appointed all his ex colleagues from sinking ship BMI. They came, they didn't know the market nor anything about safety, and they sure didn't like spending money. And my god it blew up in their faces.

Today's Tiger is a different story. Run by somebody who knows the market and wants to take the company far. And he is most certainly delivering, will be very interesting how he steers the company over the next 5 years.

Ben Sandilands sums it up quite well..
Tiger Airways' David vows to take down the Goliaths | Plane Talking

If you build it, they will come.
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 12:29
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With load factors of around 90% for this weekend, it would seem someone is doing something right...
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 13:11
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Selling tickets for $10 will fill an aircraft for sure.
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Old 1st Jul 2012, 14:33
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90% loads this weekend? First day of school holidays. Why so low?

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Old 2nd Jul 2012, 01:20
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If you build it, they will come.
That was also the mantra of the White Star Line.
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Old 12th Aug 2012, 07:50
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VNQ has been delivered and unlike previously mentioned by myself is brand new.

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Old 12th Aug 2012, 13:34
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Saw it fly out of Maktoum today on the way to Singas.
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Old 13th Aug 2012, 12:29
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It has arrived in mel
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Old 24th Oct 2013, 22:29
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Bit quiet on the Tiger front lately.

Overnight Singapore posted Q2 results and it appears Tiger Australia only lost $5.7m last quarter. Halved from the previous quarters where it was a running streak of 10-15m loss.
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Old 25th Oct 2013, 06:57
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I believe that is just Tiger Airways' Holdings portion of the loss, Virgin gains a 10m loss.

$A15.35m loss for the 3 months.

On average they are losing 1.2m a week, or roughly 200k a day.
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Old 26th Oct 2013, 00:00
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Or $16.84 per seat if the fleet of 11 a/c do 6 sectors a day.
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Old 27th Oct 2013, 23:39
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I've read a post elsewhere on PPRuNe of a large number of Qlink pilots going through the Tiger recruitment process at the moment, any truth to this?

Does Tiger have a Holding Pool back in operation again?
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Old 28th Oct 2013, 00:16
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Tigerair Australia is significantly older but also has been consistently unprofitable since launching in 2007. The carrier, which currently operates 11 A320s on 16 domestic routes, incurred an operating loss of SGD18 million (USD15 million) in 2QFY2013. Tigerair Australia has been conducting a deep strategic review since Virgin Australia took control in Jul-2013.
Seems like all the Tiger branded carriers in South East Asia made a lost the last financial quarter.

Tigerair challenges continue as losses are recorded in Australia, Indonesia, Philippines & Singapore | CAPA - Centre for Aviation
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Old 28th Oct 2013, 07:16
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I've read a post elsewhere on PPRuNe of a large number of Qlink pilots going through the Tiger recruitment process at the moment, any truth to this?

Correct.
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Old 3rd Nov 2013, 15:12
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VHVNR is on the production line at TLS
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Old 3rd Nov 2013, 22:55
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If Tiger (Aust) want to stay in business they need to make many changes to their way of doing business. Overall passenger customer service is appalling in every area.
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