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No staff travel with Singapore Airlines.
Staff travel with Tiger Airways including Asia.
No strict seniority.
Approx 70 pilots.
Approx 30 TOTAL aircraft by in Australia by 2014. Currently 7 in Australia.
Monthly rosters.
Minimum 10 OFF per month.
F/Os currently 90hrs per month stick, 120+ duty
Staff travel with Tiger Airways including Asia.
No strict seniority.
Approx 70 pilots.
Approx 30 TOTAL aircraft by in Australia by 2014. Currently 7 in Australia.
Monthly rosters.
Minimum 10 OFF per month.
F/Os currently 90hrs per month stick, 120+ duty
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Crystal Ball
You do realise that there is a significant difference between what is legal and what is safe? Just because something is legal does not mean it's safe.
The guys at Tiger are negotiating an EBA correct? I'm interested to hear the outcome. The second wave of the pilot exoudus is looming in many an organisation with pilots dusting off CV's. Will Tiger be a popular destination after the EBA goes thru?
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I was wondering what Tiger interview format was like, the styles of question were like, and how long it took?
And finally the technical exam is it more alight to the type of aircraft you flying or more on the IFR rules and procedures?
PM me if more convenient
Thanks in advance
And finally the technical exam is it more alight to the type of aircraft you flying or more on the IFR rules and procedures?
PM me if more convenient
Thanks in advance
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Looking at these new schedules shows a whopping 1 Daily MEL-OOL after March 27. In other words are they nuts? Just plain suicide coming from the 3 minimum sectors at the moment. Such a lucrative route, is Shelley under pressure to pull a profit heh? Cmon, hitting Sydney ten times a day, now BNE?
Chasing all these high yield routes just backfires in the end, just look at their Melbourne to Sydney route, now doing quite badly.
Clearly she is still lost in this market.
Chasing all these high yield routes just backfires in the end, just look at their Melbourne to Sydney route, now doing quite badly.
Clearly she is still lost in this market.
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Sunstar, did it occur to you that not all the schedules are loaded? Presumably the schedules for the other 2x daily services aren't yet in the system. That's the only explanation I have, anyway.
9 daily MEL-SYD was never going to work, as their business model simply doesn't require the frequency aspect (after all, how many Ryanair/Easyjet routes are served 9x daily?). 4-5 daily might be about right IMO, and it seems that's the way they're heading anyway.
9 daily MEL-SYD was never going to work, as their business model simply doesn't require the frequency aspect (after all, how many Ryanair/Easyjet routes are served 9x daily?). 4-5 daily might be about right IMO, and it seems that's the way they're heading anyway.
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Darwinism, what facts are we talking about here?
The facts lie amongst the dredfull pax figures now flying this route. Instead of racking up unbelievable cancellation statistics, they are just "adjusting" the schedule from 9 flights down to 3 per day during the week. Tiger's sydney ops started of well, and appear to be coping at the 9 Daily that was quickly introduced, loads seem to be sustainable in the long run. Soon as J* hit the scene numbers are awful and schedules have been significantly adjusted. Yet no indication of Tiger marketing this route anywhere.
The facts lie amongst the dredfull pax figures now flying this route. Instead of racking up unbelievable cancellation statistics, they are just "adjusting" the schedule from 9 flights down to 3 per day during the week. Tiger's sydney ops started of well, and appear to be coping at the 9 Daily that was quickly introduced, loads seem to be sustainable in the long run. Soon as J* hit the scene numbers are awful and schedules have been significantly adjusted. Yet no indication of Tiger marketing this route anywhere.
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Tiger losses take chunk out of its parent's finances
Tiger losses take chunk out of its parent's finances
MATT O'SULLIVAN
November 17, 2009
THE parent of the Australian low-cost airline Tiger Airways lost about $S28 million ($22 million) for the year to March, a sharp reversal on the previous 12 months, when it posted a $S10 million profit.
The result for the Singapore Airlines-backed Tiger Aviation indicates its Australian operations are still suffering large losses as it tries to establish a position in the domestic aviation market.
Tiger Aviation is the parent of Singapore's Tiger Airways and Tiger Airways Australia.
The privately owned airline is yet to lodge its annual accounts with Singaporean regulators but it has emerged that Singapore Airlines' share of Tiger's cumulative losses increased by $S14 million, or 44 per cent, to $S45 million for the year to March 31. Given it owns 49 per cent of the low-cost airline, Tiger lost an estimated $S28.4 million for the period.
Yesterday Singapore Airlines dismissed speculation that it had injected more capital into Tiger Aviation. But the biggest shareholder said it had stopped accounting for its share of further red ink at Tiger after accumulated losses exceeded its cash contribution of $S39.2 million.
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Tiger losses take chunk out of its parent's finances
Quite surprised that no one has posted that yet!
Anyone can someone please work out the maths for the part I had in bold? It doesn't seem to add up.
MATT O'SULLIVAN
November 17, 2009
THE parent of the Australian low-cost airline Tiger Airways lost about $S28 million ($22 million) for the year to March, a sharp reversal on the previous 12 months, when it posted a $S10 million profit.
The result for the Singapore Airlines-backed Tiger Aviation indicates its Australian operations are still suffering large losses as it tries to establish a position in the domestic aviation market.
Tiger Aviation is the parent of Singapore's Tiger Airways and Tiger Airways Australia.
The privately owned airline is yet to lodge its annual accounts with Singaporean regulators but it has emerged that Singapore Airlines' share of Tiger's cumulative losses increased by $S14 million, or 44 per cent, to $S45 million for the year to March 31. Given it owns 49 per cent of the low-cost airline, Tiger lost an estimated $S28.4 million for the period.
Yesterday Singapore Airlines dismissed speculation that it had injected more capital into Tiger Aviation. But the biggest shareholder said it had stopped accounting for its share of further red ink at Tiger after accumulated losses exceeded its cash contribution of $S39.2 million.
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Tiger losses take chunk out of its parent's finances
Quite surprised that no one has posted that yet!
Anyone can someone please work out the maths for the part I had in bold? It doesn't seem to add up.
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Don't get too excited Muff.
When figures are released, you'll most probably find that Oz ops are doing very well and propping up the Sing ops.
Put it this way, if TT oz can't make money while running on the smell of an oily rag, along with bottom dwelling employment conditions, then the likes of JQ and VB have no hope.
When figures are released, you'll most probably find that Oz ops are doing very well and propping up the Sing ops.
Put it this way, if TT oz can't make money while running on the smell of an oily rag, along with bottom dwelling employment conditions, then the likes of JQ and VB have no hope.
Muff Hunter you better take a lesson in Chinese culture, while QF has Jetstar in Singapore and the Singaporeans are locked out of any international expansion from Australia they will always be a thorn in the side of QF.
It's all about loss of face my friend and while they have deep pockets they will continue to fund it.
It's all too easy, as they will transfer capital around asia in order for the accounts to look good.
It's all about loss of face my friend and while they have deep pockets they will continue to fund it.
It's all too easy, as they will transfer capital around asia in order for the accounts to look good.
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KABOY - a bit naive to think that SIA has the time and resources to sit around and burn money on TR just to "look good" and "save face". Singapore is not China and the culture here is by no means "Chinese".
Next, TR is not a subsidiary of SIA. 51% is owned by other shareholders, so SIA cannot unanimously make decisions on what to do with TR.
Next, TR is not a subsidiary of SIA. 51% is owned by other shareholders, so SIA cannot unanimously make decisions on what to do with TR.
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otto are you on drugs???
there is no way that tgr oz are making money with 6 a/c at the prices they charge for tickets!
you'll find that it's the other way around with tgr sing making the cash and tgr oz pissing it up against the wall.
there is no way that tgr oz are making money with 6 a/c at the prices they charge for tickets!
you'll find that it's the other way around with tgr sing making the cash and tgr oz pissing it up against the wall.
MATT O'SULLIVAN, from SMH
THE parent of the Australian low-cost airline Tiger Airways lost about $S28 million ($22 million) for the year to March, a sharp reversal on the previous 12 months, when it posted a $S10 million profit.
The result for the Singapore Airlines-backed Tiger Aviation indicates its Australian operations are still suffering large losses as it tries to establish a position in the domestic aviation market.
Tiger Aviation is the parent of Singapore's Tiger Airways and Tiger Airways Australia.
The privately owned airline is yet to lodge its annual accounts with Singaporean regulators but it has emerged that Singapore Airlines' share of Tiger's cumulative losses increased by $S14 million, or 44 per cent, to $S45 million for the year to March 31. Given it owns 49 per cent of the low-cost airline, Tiger lost an estimated $S28.4 million for the period.
Yesterday Singapore Airlines dismissed speculation that it had injected more capital into Tiger Aviation. But the biggest shareholder said it had stopped accounting for its share of further red ink at Tiger after accumulated losses exceeded its cash contribution of $S39.2 million.
Tiger Airways Australia did not respond to questions yesterday about its performance, saying only that it would be ''announcing our results shortly''.
The parent's Singapore-based chief executive, Tony Davis, has been upbeat about the airline's performance in Australia, but recently conceded it was still losing money. Tiger's only operation outside Singapore is in Australia.
In February Tiger, Australia's fourth-biggest airline brand, belatedly released its accounts for the year to March 31, 2008, which showed it ran up losses of $20 million. The figure included $7.9 million in start-up costs in Australia.
Tiger has recently shifted in its focus towards high-traffic routes, after a strategy of stimulating regional routes when it launched in Australia two years ago.
In July it signalled its intention to challenge Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin Blue when it began services on the country's busiest route, between Sydney and Melbourne. Since then it has announced services between Sydney and the Gold Coast - the fifth busiest route in Australia - and Melbourne and Brisbane.
However, industry insiders have been sceptical of Tiger's ability to service 18 routes in Australia with just seven Airbus A320 aircraft. An eighth is not due until early next year.
Tiger Aviation's other main shareholders are the private equity firm Indigo Partners and the Ryan family of Ireland, responsible for setting up Europe's largest airline, Ryanair.
The result for the Singapore Airlines-backed Tiger Aviation indicates its Australian operations are still suffering large losses as it tries to establish a position in the domestic aviation market.
Tiger Aviation is the parent of Singapore's Tiger Airways and Tiger Airways Australia.
The privately owned airline is yet to lodge its annual accounts with Singaporean regulators but it has emerged that Singapore Airlines' share of Tiger's cumulative losses increased by $S14 million, or 44 per cent, to $S45 million for the year to March 31. Given it owns 49 per cent of the low-cost airline, Tiger lost an estimated $S28.4 million for the period.
Yesterday Singapore Airlines dismissed speculation that it had injected more capital into Tiger Aviation. But the biggest shareholder said it had stopped accounting for its share of further red ink at Tiger after accumulated losses exceeded its cash contribution of $S39.2 million.
Tiger Airways Australia did not respond to questions yesterday about its performance, saying only that it would be ''announcing our results shortly''.
The parent's Singapore-based chief executive, Tony Davis, has been upbeat about the airline's performance in Australia, but recently conceded it was still losing money. Tiger's only operation outside Singapore is in Australia.
In February Tiger, Australia's fourth-biggest airline brand, belatedly released its accounts for the year to March 31, 2008, which showed it ran up losses of $20 million. The figure included $7.9 million in start-up costs in Australia.
Tiger has recently shifted in its focus towards high-traffic routes, after a strategy of stimulating regional routes when it launched in Australia two years ago.
In July it signalled its intention to challenge Qantas, Jetstar and Virgin Blue when it began services on the country's busiest route, between Sydney and Melbourne. Since then it has announced services between Sydney and the Gold Coast - the fifth busiest route in Australia - and Melbourne and Brisbane.
However, industry insiders have been sceptical of Tiger's ability to service 18 routes in Australia with just seven Airbus A320 aircraft. An eighth is not due until early next year.
Tiger Aviation's other main shareholders are the private equity firm Indigo Partners and the Ryan family of Ireland, responsible for setting up Europe's largest airline, Ryanair.
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aplogies otto, having that 1 extra a/c would make all the difference!!!
and the $80(premium fare) compared to the $39(cheap fare) would surely see them raking in the big ones!!
how could i've been so blind!......must be the drugs!!
and the $80(premium fare) compared to the $39(cheap fare) would surely see them raking in the big ones!!
how could i've been so blind!......must be the drugs!!