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... minimum safety calls for one crew member for each primary door - and the successful evac incidents seem to prove this position correct.
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well said Keg
- perhaps a digression to some however I would say 'on topic' given that the baseline for any airline's profitable operation is the fact that pax confidence and market confidence are not mutually exclusive.
- whether it is confidence in the safety of those onboard, or the confidence for your cash that's paid for advance tickets - without it, things can go very wobbly, very quickly.
(qualifier: confidence reference above though should not be confused with Godfrey & co's hypoxic like 'over-confidence' which clearly is doing more damage than good)
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actually the Hudson excursion had another similarlity to VB in that it did not carry liferafts either .............that (now well expired & unjustified) dispensation just keeps getting a rolling continuance eh!
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- perhaps a digression to some however I would say 'on topic' given that the baseline for any airline's profitable operation is the fact that pax confidence and market confidence are not mutually exclusive.
- whether it is confidence in the safety of those onboard, or the confidence for your cash that's paid for advance tickets - without it, things can go very wobbly, very quickly.
(qualifier: confidence reference above though should not be confused with Godfrey & co's hypoxic like 'over-confidence' which clearly is doing more damage than good)
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actually the Hudson excursion had another similarlity to VB in that it did not carry liferafts either .............that (now well expired & unjustified) dispensation just keeps getting a rolling continuance eh!
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On a 737 I woud rather not have it than have one of you trolley dollies trying to carry it down the aisle without firing it.
Time to get over all this self importance stuff I reckon.
Time to get over all this self importance stuff I reckon.
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a trolley dolly ????
hardly .........in any event, that's a pretty sad attitude for an engineer - even worse for an (alleged) VB engineer to put sh*t on your own cabin crew. Without them in the cabin we don't have pax and without pax ...we don't have a flying job ...and that is likely to leave you out in the cold too.
I'm so glad to know that with such a poor attitude regarding safety that you're not signing the log on my aircraft. - Maybe you should also change your name to Tony Bullimore - he didn't think much of taking risks either.
As for getting back on track.........suggest you try re-reading the thread it is all about the factors that affect the perception of VB which in turn directly affects the share performance.
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hardly .........in any event, that's a pretty sad attitude for an engineer - even worse for an (alleged) VB engineer to put sh*t on your own cabin crew. Without them in the cabin we don't have pax and without pax ...we don't have a flying job ...and that is likely to leave you out in the cold too.
I'm so glad to know that with such a poor attitude regarding safety that you're not signing the log on my aircraft. - Maybe you should also change your name to Tony Bullimore - he didn't think much of taking risks either.
As for getting back on track.........suggest you try re-reading the thread it is all about the factors that affect the perception of VB which in turn directly affects the share performance.
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I too recall hearing the Singapore Airlines "white knight" theory for Ansett.
Ansett had marketshare, brand, network & cashflow at the time.
The Singapore investment was going to create a formidable competitor to QF.
It made so much sense, Ansett where already flying leased 747-300's on the international operations.
And with those 12 * 744's on the way, Singapore was going to use Ansett as the vehicle to the pacific run.
"White Knight" come back, Australia needs you.
Ansett had marketshare, brand, network & cashflow at the time.
The Singapore investment was going to create a formidable competitor to QF.
It made so much sense, Ansett where already flying leased 747-300's on the international operations.
And with those 12 * 744's on the way, Singapore was going to use Ansett as the vehicle to the pacific run.
"White Knight" come back, Australia needs you.
Mstr Caution. AN were using ex SQ B747-400's for some of their International services at the time of their collapse. The ex SQ B747-300's had been returned to SQ for some time.
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Anyone who reckons that carrying supernumerary cabin crew, and lugging life rafts around on all domestic flights is a method to increase passenger numbers has rally lost the plot I think.
Best get back to dealing out those pringles and chicken wraps me thinks!!!
Oh and keep that dark re-growth in check too please, not too keen on the GT stripe down the middle thanks darls......
Best get back to dealing out those pringles and chicken wraps me thinks!!!
Oh and keep that dark re-growth in check too please, not too keen on the GT stripe down the middle thanks darls......
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Yes, but there is the thing- when the rest of us had/and do operate ETOPS standards- be it over water or just toddling across to Perth, it does matter, (not that we go to Perth)- we do maintain those things- but sure it is probably parse'.
Being an Engineer- does the Company hold and have the capacity to maintain ETOPS standards- can you track Engs & APU's to an airframe- along with their trend burns????????????- their was a time.............
Also, yes at the moment it is 1:36- if you (being Australia) get to the point of harmonisation, like PNG and New Zealand, then you do reach the world standard of 1:50- I think "they" call that Worlds Best Practice, or some such- Brett likes that stuff- or so I'm given to understand..........
Or you could just dedicate the Perth airframes and the fuel burn via "Forest" (I think it is???)
Not that I know...........
Being an Engineer- does the Company hold and have the capacity to maintain ETOPS standards- can you track Engs & APU's to an airframe- along with their trend burns????????????- their was a time.............
Also, yes at the moment it is 1:36- if you (being Australia) get to the point of harmonisation, like PNG and New Zealand, then you do reach the world standard of 1:50- I think "they" call that Worlds Best Practice, or some such- Brett likes that stuff- or so I'm given to understand..........
Or you could just dedicate the Perth airframes and the fuel burn via "Forest" (I think it is???)
Not that I know...........
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B772 - AN were using ex SQ B747-400's for some of their International services at the time of their collapse. The ex SQ B747-300's had been returned to SQ for some time.
My previous post was circa 1999.
Ansett had taken delivery of the 3 * B747-300 in 1994.
In 1999 while still operating the leased B747-300 from SQ, employees at AN saw the "White Knight" Singaporeans as an opportunity to take the business forward. AN where reducucing costs via the Business recovery program, had an interim profit 98/99 of A$61.6M & 99/00 was looking promising finacially.
Asia Times: News Corp. grounds Singapore Airlines' Ansett deal
In 99 the 747-300 where returning to SQ & replaced by 747-400 which were operating at the time of the collapse in 2001.
Reading comments such as the following, is somewhat akin to deja' vous.
.....hoping that someone like a sovereign wealth fund would take notice of their great idea. Hope the dice will roll for them. Before you write VB off '' insolvent '' just as yet, and consider the basics, VB have a market share, a brand, a network and positive cash flow. What would prevent SQ from buying VB? That's another debate. But if they did, they can make VB a direct competitor to QF by making VB a proper carrier and VB can offer the same service at a lower cost base.
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So I've just seen photos of the first flight to LAX exSYD... Bernadette from Qantas was onboard as was Sally from Jetstar...
Is it just me or is it childish that they have DJ employees dressed up and making a mochery?
I have the pics to prove, happy to email away.
Is it just me or is it childish that they have DJ employees dressed up and making a mochery?
I have the pics to prove, happy to email away.
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Originally Posted by dizzylizzy
So I've just seen photos of the first flight to LAX exSYD... Bernadette from Qantas was onboard as was Sally from Jetstar...
Is it just me or is it childish that they have DJ employees dressed up and making a mockery?
Is it just me or is it childish that they have DJ employees dressed up and making a mockery?
They always take a risk, though, with the determinedly cheerful young thing approach. Doesn't work for a grumpy old man like me; and didn't work when my wife took a trio of 80 year olds BNE-SYD for their sibling's funeral.
Their original target market was young and immortal; across the Pacific they are now targetting more serious folk. Time will tell whether the in-cabin pizazz needs toning down.
