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BNE LAX direct is coming ... however it has not been announced yet ... there's a billboard on Airport Drive in BNE about BNE to LAX with V ... however in the small print (hard to read when you're going 80km/h) it says that it consists of a connection through Sydney with Virgin Blue domestic.
However as I said it wont be long til it is announced... my main interest is how they intend to crew the operation from BNE... BNE base perhaps?
However as I said it wont be long til it is announced... my main interest is how they intend to crew the operation from BNE... BNE base perhaps?
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Well things are going to change. With a share price of 50c who is going to pay for all this. Toll I don't think so. ANother share issue. You have got to be joking.
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they will do everything they can to get this airline up... if it doesnt happen now, it'll never happen, thats what Godfrey has told staff... and the only chance it wont happen is if fuel hits $200 a barrell, then there's a possibility it wont happen
Well, If that's the case then, they had better bite the bullet and offer a realistic salary to their professional pilots. If they do that, then at least serious crewing issues won't be on the list of their obstacles.
I dunno tune'777, they still must have the right to reside in OZ. And remember, the United pilots have been furloughed, not sacked. Big decision to pack up and move across the other side of the world, especially if you old job may be waiting in 3 months time.
A lot has been said by airline managements about the misfortunes of others. To hold that up as an example as to why we should condone the continued degradation of our profession is just what they are hoping for. It's not a plan to attract and retain quality crew. It is wishfull thinking by self interested string pullers who will do and say anything to protect their own positions.
Whether or not that sort of attitude prevails, I guess remains to be seen.
Oh, and by the way, have you heard about the request to VOZ second officers to pursue other avenues if they so wish!!!
A lot has been said by airline managements about the misfortunes of others. To hold that up as an example as to why we should condone the continued degradation of our profession is just what they are hoping for. It's not a plan to attract and retain quality crew. It is wishfull thinking by self interested string pullers who will do and say anything to protect their own positions.
Whether or not that sort of attitude prevails, I guess remains to be seen.
Oh, and by the way, have you heard about the request to VOZ second officers to pursue other avenues if they so wish!!!
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United pilots have been furloughed, not sacked. Big decision to pack up and move across the other side of the world, especially if you old job may be waiting in 3 months time.
The airways would never be the same.
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they still must have the right to reside in OZ.
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God, please keep the yanks out of OZ, PLEASE!!!
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Just what I heard from a collegue today! Apparently some of the new hires at VOZ have been contacted with that suggestion.
They are all Cruise F/O's, Junior F/O's, Second Officers, or whatever the HR department chooses to call them. At least 3 of whom I know, although highly experienced in their own right, but not fitting the correct profile for a window seat, have been told (cryptically) that they may seek other opportunities if they wish!
Now, you draw your own conclusions, but it seems to me as though VOZ may end up with a number of expat Captains, a sh!tload of 2nd Officers, but very few willing to commit to the right seat on the apallingly low package on offer. End Result, an over-supply of back seaters for whom VOZ have already given an undertaking to employ! Wouldn't be a good look if they have to retrench a stack of pilots before they even start!
This is a rumour network, and the information comes to me second hand, so someone in the know might like to elaborate?
Just what I heard from a collegue today! Apparently some of the new hires at VOZ have been contacted with that suggestion.
They are all Cruise F/O's, Junior F/O's, Second Officers, or whatever the HR department chooses to call them. At least 3 of whom I know, although highly experienced in their own right, but not fitting the correct profile for a window seat, have been told (cryptically) that they may seek other opportunities if they wish!
Now, you draw your own conclusions, but it seems to me as though VOZ may end up with a number of expat Captains, a sh!tload of 2nd Officers, but very few willing to commit to the right seat on the apallingly low package on offer. End Result, an over-supply of back seaters for whom VOZ have already given an undertaking to employ! Wouldn't be a good look if they have to retrench a stack of pilots before they even start!
This is a rumour network, and the information comes to me second hand, so someone in the know might like to elaborate?
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Rumour is the cruise FO's are being sim trained first. They therefore have a good 3 month break before operations start ( and line training).
They are therefore being told they can find a second job in their time off, whilst still being paid by 'V'.
The rumour I heard anyway.
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They are therefore being told they can find a second job in their time off, whilst still being paid by 'V'.
The rumour I heard anyway.
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Wow.
So all the doom and gloom that VA are such ba$tards for the pay on offer for an FO is just the same as one of the more respected (??) world airlines.....
Not saying it's right or wrong. Just curious. I suspect T&C better at CX though? Grass is always greener.
Take tax in HK + expat allowances + medical insurance, etc a CX SO is potentially better off than a CX DEFO at an o/s base. Food for thought, eh!
So all the doom and gloom that VA are such ba$tards for the pay on offer for an FO is just the same as one of the more respected (??) world airlines.....
Not saying it's right or wrong. Just curious. I suspect T&C better at CX though? Grass is always greener.
Take tax in HK + expat allowances + medical insurance, etc a CX SO is potentially better off than a CX DEFO at an o/s base. Food for thought, eh!
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As Qantas has dropped the ball in Japan there must be huge potential to pick up a lot of traffic that has bled off to Korean, China Airlines, Cathay, Thai, Malaysian and Singapore.
A Narita service could also double Virgin Group capacity for London-Sydney traffic.
A Narita service might also provide better a/c utilisation.
QF is now the cheapest carrier on the Australian route ex-Japan, even though the alernatives involve a transit. That goes to show how badly QF has dropped the ball.
Virgin could charge what they liked and still fill the a/c.
A Narita service could also double Virgin Group capacity for London-Sydney traffic.
A Narita service might also provide better a/c utilisation.
QF is now the cheapest carrier on the Australian route ex-Japan, even though the alernatives involve a transit. That goes to show how badly QF has dropped the ball.
Virgin could charge what they liked and still fill the a/c.
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Hi krusty , dont know what you have heard but at v aus there has been no cruise fo 's asked to persue alternate jobs, however due to the large time between training and commencement of the operation in late november quite a few guys have asked to go back and fly with previous employers for two reasons;
A- make liitle extra cash , cant blame them there and
B- maintain flying skills during the 2-3 month lag, especially with the crfo's
The management have actually supported this, which i think is very generous as technically they own your yearly flight hour alotment , and all this while still being paid buy V aus.
At the moment they seem to be having trouble recruiting enough fo's and promotion may happen faster than 2-3 yrs. Well you can only hope.
Hope that clears up a few rumours anyway, we just have to pray the oil price stabilisers in the near future for everyones sake. Although at rex the recruitment slowdown seems to be helping rex recoup pilot numbers and heard today that the pilot ranks are getting back up to normal numbers again, at last count i think they said they need somewhere around 235 pilots to comfortably run the schedule with reserves for sickleave.
Hope you all are well at rex and good luck!!
Especially with the eba negotiations.
A- make liitle extra cash , cant blame them there and
B- maintain flying skills during the 2-3 month lag, especially with the crfo's
The management have actually supported this, which i think is very generous as technically they own your yearly flight hour alotment , and all this while still being paid buy V aus.
At the moment they seem to be having trouble recruiting enough fo's and promotion may happen faster than 2-3 yrs. Well you can only hope.
Hope that clears up a few rumours anyway, we just have to pray the oil price stabilisers in the near future for everyones sake. Although at rex the recruitment slowdown seems to be helping rex recoup pilot numbers and heard today that the pilot ranks are getting back up to normal numbers again, at last count i think they said they need somewhere around 235 pilots to comfortably run the schedule with reserves for sickleave.
Hope you all are well at rex and good luck!!
Especially with the eba negotiations.