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Old 2nd Jul 2008, 12:08
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How much were the Engineers asking for again?
How much did the Strike Breakers cost?
How much has these delays cost?
When are the institutional investors going to demand geoff (my ego is bigger than your's) fix this?
So many questions ,so few answers!
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Old 2nd Jul 2008, 12:23
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Hello Media

Read the above three posts, then do some research to be sure its accurate and post it on the front page of the papers! And the Fin review too.

I am not a big fan of the unions and silly wage claims, but this is vastly different. This management stupidity is beyond belief.

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Old 2nd Jul 2008, 13:09
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any ideas what the delays will be like into next week,
im booked on qf568 per-syd, and qf163 syd-akl on the 12th,
theres a one hour connect at sydney, is there a good chance one or both flights will be delayed?

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Old 2nd Jul 2008, 13:21
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zk-nsj,
I don't have the answer for your questions, but I do have a question for you though, why did you book 2 flights so close to each other? Do you realise you arrive in T3 and have to go on transit bus to international terminal and then security check point? You reckon you'll board the flight within 1 hour? You really are pushing your luck, whether the flights are delayed or not.
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theres a one hour connect at sydney, is there a good chance one or both flights will be delayed?
mmm....Yes
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Bad smell plagues 744, 7 days and counting.....

Cant wait to see when it returns to service......
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Hi Aurora, please advise which one?
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VH-OJS - bad smell in flight deck

And roll on the jokes.........
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 00:40
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Hello Media
Read the above three posts, then do some research to be sure its accurate and post it on the front page of the papers! And the Fin review too.

I am not a big fan of the unions and silly wage claims, but this is vastly different. This management stupidity is beyond belief.
These arent just any hotel rooms. They're 5 star. Assume $150 -$200/night.

Add to that:
  • Meal vouchers for 800 @ $30/pax = $24,000.
  • Transport to city: $???
  • Cabs home for Sydney-based pax: $???
  • The 55 strikebreakers in serviced apartments in Sydney, receiving wages and meal allowances. I'll leave out the "positioning" travel and all company training expenses, which wouldn't be cheap either. Accommodation: assume 55 x $150 - $200/night = $8250 - $11,000/night; 55 x meal expenses claimable @ approx $100/day = $5,500/day; wages: 55 x $100,000 for a 6 month contract = $29,400 in wages/day. Or at least $43,150 PER DAY! Many of these "alternative workers" have been contracted for almost 6 months now. If the dispute stretches into more than 6 months, their contract rate for the second 6 months is $140,000/6 months, or about $750/day x 55 = $41,000/day!
  • Loss of pax loyalty: priceless
  • Bad media: priceless
  • Word of mouth: it's an old truism that you'll tell one person about a positive experience, but you'll tell ten people about a negative one - priceless.
  • Engineers not taking Annual Leave is a liability on the company books: $???
  • Engineers taking sickies due to inability to take leave and working so hard on the clapped out fleet: $??? loss of productivity
  • Engineers no longer going "above and beyond": $???
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 01:10
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My concern is to what extent the industrial action delays are covering up more serious issues that have been simmering in the background. Industrial action can make a very convenient scapegoat for the outcome of some longer term decisions by management.
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zk-nsj,
I don't have the answer for your questions, but I do have a question for you though, why did you book 2 flights so close to each other? Do you realise you arrive in T3 and have to go on transit bus to international terminal and then security check point? You reckon you'll board the flight within 1 hour? You really are pushing your luck, whether the flights are delayed or not.
Why did he book the 2 flights so close together? Because he can. That is the legal MCT in SYD. My area regularly dumps 20-30 connecters from the 163 to the 43 because of this stupidity. Whenever we ask for the MCT to be extended in SYD to something more reasonable..eg 1.30hr..for operational reasons, we get laughed down by marketing. They demand only an hour because it's easier to sell. Another example of people with no idea pulling the strings.

When was the last time the QF568 ran on time with a classic for more than a few days???

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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 01:36
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My concern is to what extent the industrial action delays are covering up more serious issues that have been simmering in the background. Industrial action can make a very convenient scapegoat for the outcome of some longer term decisions by management.
B747-400 A-Checks used to be scheduled every 500 hours flying time, with specific tasks incorporated in each A-Check. Well, in his infinite wisdom, the former Sydney Base Maintenance Manager changed that interval to 1000 hours and also removed some tasks from the check. Last I heard, he wanted to stretch the interval to 1250 hours. This is the guy who is now in charge of the A380 maintenance program.
Be afraid. Very afraid.
I should be fair: it's all perfectly legal as per the manufacturer. But Qantas Engineering used to be so respected for maintaining aircraft, the manufacturers used to come to us to ask our advice on how we maintained our aircraft so well, eg we used to hold the record for time on wing for engines. But since MH the manager of Aircraft Customer Services (a department of Qantas Engineering) messed with the engine maintenance, we have B737 engines that regularly don't meet thrust targets and B767 engines being removed after 6 weeks, not months or even years.
We are at the end of the world. We regularly make the aircraft perform to the utmost of their capabilities every day. They therefore need a little more than the minimum mandated maintenance recommended by the manufacturer. And remember, the B747-400s aren't spring chickens any more.
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B747-400 A-Checks used to be scheduled every 500 hours flying time, with specific tasks incorporated in each A-Check. Well, in his infinite wisdom, the former Sydney Base Maintenance Manager changed that interval to 1000 hours and also removed some tasks from the check. Last I heard, he wanted to stretch the interval to 1250 hours.
Alaska Airlines thought that was a good idea as well.Lots of Lubrication required on a A check!

Alaska Airlines' extension of its lubrication interval for its MD-80 horizontal stabilizer components, , based on Boeing's extension of the recommended lubrication interval increased the likelihood that a missed or inadequate lubrication would result in excessive wear of jackscrew assembly acme nut threads and, therefore, was a direct cause of the excessive wear and contributed to the Alaska Airlines flight 261 accident.

In the aftermath of the crash of Flight 261, the FAA ordered U.S. carriers to increase the lubrication interval to every 650 hours.
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 08:45
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Just a humble gold ff slf here.....

Delays: qf571 syd-per yesterday July 2. Hey it was windy and they were down to 1 runway apparently, couldn't be qantas' fault..strange though, all others were only 10 - 15 mins, whereas we were delayed approx 90 mins. The Captain was kind enough to explain: 'the plane came in from New Zealand and was abandoned at the International Terminal, so it took an hour to get it over to the domestic terminal, and then the airbridge wasn't working and it took another 30 minutes to fix that'!

Crew also seemed down at least 1 - but still great happy service and thanks to the Captain for putting the foot down and catching up about half an hour, no mean feet with a 737 into the wind. Probably stuffed the fuel bill but I for one appreciated it!
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 08:55
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QF 26 tomorrow

Tomorrow morning's QF26 is showing as 5 hrs. late into AKL. No surprises there - but why is it arriving from Nadi?
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 09:10
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Tonight's QF1 SYD-BKK-LHR..............

Now leaving early tomorrow morning.
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 10:17
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i booked those flights caus the only other available auckland flight showing online was departing sometime in the afternoon, not wanting a longish wait,
i normally book on qf45 to chch, but the bastards want an extra 300 odd bucks for that,
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 10:43
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but the bastards want an extra 300 odd bucks for that,
And the bastards will want a lot more than that when YOU miss the flight!
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 12:35
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And the bastards will want a lot more than that when YOU miss the flight!
Not exactly. QF is still a full service airline. When QF is delayed and missconnects to another QF flight, unlike LCC's, we deem that to be our fault, and not the PAX fault. As long as the booking was made with at least minimum connecting time, then we move them FOC. Even if the bookings are made seperately..ie 1 for the PER/SYD and 1 for the SYD/AKL, we still move them FOC, and quite regularly use other carriers to get them where they need to be.

If QF deem that the minimum time required between DOM and INT at SYD is 1hr, why should the customer pay when we can't get them to their connecting flight. Like I said, we are still a full service airline.........
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Old 3rd Jul 2008, 13:22
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"Full Service Airline!"

Supposedly!!!!!!............................................ ......
Unfortunately, the reality is somewhat different!!!!!
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