Merged: Qantas Engineers Set to Strike
Pass a Frozo can be safely ignored as he doesn't know what he is talking about, as this post demonstrates:
If QF thought there were 20 people surplus to requirements they would be gone in a flash, industrial action or no industrial action.
Similarly with outsourcing. These decisions are not made overnight as a result of a paltry 5% wage claim....Except the Board and Management of QF are stupid enough to do so, in which case what's the point of working for idiots?
So here is a question. If 20 people will lose their job because of the QF Engineers industrial action is it worth it?
Similarly with outsourcing. These decisions are not made overnight as a result of a paltry 5% wage claim....Except the Board and Management of QF are stupid enough to do so, in which case what's the point of working for idiots?
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What Strike?
I think it is timely to remind everyone reading here, the QANTAS LAME's
are taking PROTECTED INDUSTRIAL ACTION consisting of banning the
unreasonable overtime we are expected to do on our rostered days off.
This is not a strike but it has shaken QF management to the core as they
have made redundant 30% of their engineers and now do not have enough
to do the daily planned maintenance let alone any breakdowns.
They rely on daily overtime to cover the short fall of manpower.
They have destroyed wages & conditions to such an extent more engineers
are walking out the door to the "Low Cost Carriers" that are paying
more that $30,000.00 pa than more than QF.
If there is disruption to the schedule it is the direct fault of management.
If they stand people down and escalate the PIA we have the option to hold meetings
away from work which may take 2 days to inform all the engineers around
the world of the proceeding and to take votes etc.
No mention of strikes from the union, only from QANTAS Managers and their lying media campaign.
are taking PROTECTED INDUSTRIAL ACTION consisting of banning the
unreasonable overtime we are expected to do on our rostered days off.
This is not a strike but it has shaken QF management to the core as they
have made redundant 30% of their engineers and now do not have enough
to do the daily planned maintenance let alone any breakdowns.
They rely on daily overtime to cover the short fall of manpower.
They have destroyed wages & conditions to such an extent more engineers
are walking out the door to the "Low Cost Carriers" that are paying
more that $30,000.00 pa than more than QF.
If there is disruption to the schedule it is the direct fault of management.
If they stand people down and escalate the PIA we have the option to hold meetings
away from work which may take 2 days to inform all the engineers around
the world of the proceeding and to take votes etc.
No mention of strikes from the union, only from QANTAS Managers and their lying media campaign.
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Yes, what it says to most of us that look at this situation (except the media, as they have their clients) is that it is bad management just trying to cover their ar$es.
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Bad union management who cant hold up there end of an agreement. Greedy lames who conveniently omit that they get a free level every 4 years along with steddy 3% wages rises except when they took a wage freeze but got some points instead. Your new leaders have caused all this and if it wasnt for them h245 would still be going strong but alas you only get what you elect. 
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Mr Qantas
The company could not survive with 10 Lames per crew and only doing one task card per day per Lame.
We have to deal with reality here, and changing situations. So now Qantas Maintenence has become much more efficient we should be rewarded as is the Board of Management.
The company could not survive with 10 Lames per crew and only doing one task card per day per Lame.
We have to deal with reality here, and changing situations. So now Qantas Maintenence has become much more efficient we should be rewarded as is the Board of Management.
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To the boys and girls flying in our planes - do not ignore any defect you come across. Write them all down, fill up those logbooks and make sure there is a spare handy.
We love nothing more than maintaining planes in tip top condition.
Thanks for the support many of you have shown. Unfortunately we're all in the same 'boat'.
We love nothing more than maintaining planes in tip top condition.
Thanks for the support many of you have shown. Unfortunately we're all in the same 'boat'.
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Beyond It!
The truth hurts! And how! The O/T bans are just an appetiser. Let us see the shameful few. Who cares how many. Bring on the stoppages. Need the rest anyway due to fatigue. This ship is on the brink now! So many truly do not care what happens any more. No fear at all. Nothing left. This is what happens when you disrespect a workforce that truly loved and took deep pride in their work. So many beyond reason. Is this management. This is a tragedy. To the bottom of my heart, I hope it hurts and there are job losses! Starting at the top!
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Mine is a blue pen and I bought it myself.
I too love filling in log books.
Mine is the cabin condition log.
Good luck fellas.
How wonderful would it be to see dickson skulking out of the joint with a bloody nose.
I too love filling in log books.
Mine is the cabin condition log.
Good luck fellas.
How wonderful would it be to see dickson skulking out of the joint with a bloody nose.
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So many truly do not care what happens any more.
We care about safety above profit not like the few managers.
They only see that the share price has tumbled and their FREE share options
that they will have to pay $5.00 $6.00 plus per share are useless if they exercise them.
The only way to make money on them and to make short term profits to boost share price
and dump the free millions of shares and then move on G Dick, M Jacko, P Greed etc
They have planned this for years.
This is more than inside trading, it is much much worse,
It is a pity that ASIC do not see this.
They set up the APA sale issue just to inflate the share price and exercise
millions of share options at premium and sell off to make MILLIONS of DOLLARS at our expense......
Just another criminal exercise in ripping off the Company and hoodwinking ASIC for personal gain...............
The long term future of QANTAS has nothing to do with their plans only
long term plans of GD MJ PG etc
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Just for those who may be interested. There was almost as much interest both direct and indirect to the ALAEA office late in the week regarding our ballot result from tech and cabin crew. Can I please just ask a couple of favours from both groups.
No snags on napkins or last minute annunciator verbal requests. Everything needs to be documented, it will make it just that little bit harder for their underlicenced "alternative workforce".
cheers
No snags on napkins or last minute annunciator verbal requests. Everything needs to be documented, it will make it just that little bit harder for their underlicenced "alternative workforce".
cheers
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And don't forget to write defects in the techlogs, as difficult to understand as humanly possible,and then shoot through and get home to the family as quickly as possible. I'd say a minimum of 3-4 snags every turnaround should do nicely.
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I am dedicated to providing the BEST quality maintenance and love my job. We all fly on these from time to time and we need to keep that standard reguardless of the pressures put on us. I WAS once a "speedy lets fix it to minimalise delays but that allitude died along with lost of my fellow work mates. The BOOKS are there for a reason so put up that umbrella and cover your backsides, our licenses are paying for our lifestyles that are going down hill. Stick togeather and ignore +dont reply to the "company related oxygen thiefs" that post properganda, it will only cause this forum to be locked out and we need all the feedback from ALL our mates world wide to remain united. Even though I would never resign, being locked out does not worry me and there is life outside QF. If you lok in the PPM there is provision for taking extended breaks during excessive workloads, and PLEASE would ALL you guys closely read the ETOPS manual and once interpreted pass it on to all, then wait and see how many e/r flights become non e/r. This is a big one and has caused IOC and maint. watch serious greef. Study the tee5rc on e/r flight berfore arrival. VXK STBY rudder actuator has been leaking for ages and I believe it should be repaired so watch out for it. I will keep researching the QF system and post any relevent info as it arises. United we stand. On a finishing note, I feel sorry for those who require O/T to keep their heads above water and have no suggestions to this problem appart from taking a leaf out of GD's spending cutbacks. I hope I have not crossed any lines as PIA support is required by all for some sort of outcome. As stated before DONT answer the corporate/manager blogs as it only incites nasty comments due to highly emotional poeple and we need to keep this thread to continue as all parts of the QF family seem to be attracted to this thread and it is a valuable tool for all departments and will affect everybody, cheers SIKWOG. PS spell check didnt work so sorry.
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Futher more to my last post, and I refer to the alaea exec's ast post, operating crew of an A/C including F/A and obligated to enter all defect in the cabin condition log in accordance with the policy manual, there will be die hard supporters or the protected action taken that will possibly report your actions for not following these proceedures set buy the company forcing those into line to carry out them to carry out what is required by qantas law, so if you dont want to be deciplined make your self familiar with the new requirements as I have personally seen that not all CSM'S are up to date on what they are obligated to do and have not been classed in these matters. When you fill out the cabin log, be sure you are aware in the PPM procedure as it is now a legal doccument, not like the old CCL whick was a scratch pad with no accountability. Pilots, verbals are a thing af the past, we want everything reported, no exceptions. If you guys want to have a safe and reliable airplane you need to report all abnormal operations and have them investigated by experienced LAME's and if you believe this has not happened it is your life at risk and all on board. To all that read this remember engineers stay on the groung and are safe from catastrophy so employing alternative engineers you will NOT recieve any guaranties and the MEDA system will not apply during this period for obvious reasons. The pilots need us as thay want to go home and hug their kids as well as the ALAEA members. Strike Breakers will make us into Garuda airlines.
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Guys/gals, you have a lot of support that you probably don't even know about. I'm not a QF engineer and I stand to be inconvenienced a bit in the near future but like many I am just sick and tired of management types screwing down T&C's to the extent that it compromises safety. As an Australian I have always been proud of the standards of our aviation industry, Ausi blue collars have historically taken pride in their work (as they do now) and more important than earning a million bucks was the fact that they knew they were good, they knew their work was top knotch. The ability to achieve this has been slowly but surely ripped away from us over the last two decades by management types who only care about making a million bucks and don't see the value in putting in the extra hard yards to maintain that high standard. They don't understand your professional pride because they've never experienced it themselves. I admit that the industry has needed to change over the years, needed to evolve and keep up with world wide trends, but where do you draw the line? When do you say " No. In Australia we're willing to foot that bill in order to maintain our standards, our safety record, and our reputation" You guys are drawing that line now. Good on ya.
I think you say too much on this thread, decide on what you are personally willing to do and then go quietly about doing it. We will be backing you. Talk in your crew rooms etc but this is a public forum and Jo public doesn't understand how your ability to do your job has been eroded and will take many of these comments as militant unionist banter.
My 2 cents.
I think you say too much on this thread, decide on what you are personally willing to do and then go quietly about doing it. We will be backing you. Talk in your crew rooms etc but this is a public forum and Jo public doesn't understand how your ability to do your job has been eroded and will take many of these comments as militant unionist banter.
My 2 cents.