Merged: Boeing Revises 787 First Flight and Delivery Plans- Again
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no...... but I am sure they will publish it.
My source is on the inside.....but not at Boeing Field which is where it was going to land, it departed from the factory in Everett!
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My source is on the inside.....but not at Boeing Field which is where it was going to land, it departed from the factory in Everett!
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Well , the test flight news footage looked pretty good to me. Except the engine T/O noise sounded dreadfull- kinda like a Honda nifty fifty motorbike with a hole in the muffler!!!! Reminded me of the sound of the Nazi buzz bombs in WWII !!!!! Surely Boeing can get a better sounding engine than that!!!! 
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Surely Boeing can get a better sounding engine than that!!!!
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Why is it every second post compares the 787 to the A380? It is like comparing a panel van to a Mac truck!
I even had someone discussing the fact that the 787 had bigger wing flex than the A380....fancy that! Would it be because the A380 has an extra 2 engines on the outer wing weighing it down? Or the fact that the A380 wing is designed to carry twice the weight of the 787? Dah!
The wing flex is impressive on the 787, very nice to watch, lovely to see it finally in the air...must say, the best flex until now had been on the A330, and it is lovely to see the A330 and 787 flex wings like some overgrown glider or super metal bird itching to get airborne.
Exciting times ahead!
I even had someone discussing the fact that the 787 had bigger wing flex than the A380....fancy that! Would it be because the A380 has an extra 2 engines on the outer wing weighing it down? Or the fact that the A380 wing is designed to carry twice the weight of the 787? Dah!
The wing flex is impressive on the 787, very nice to watch, lovely to see it finally in the air...must say, the best flex until now had been on the A330, and it is lovely to see the A330 and 787 flex wings like some overgrown glider or super metal bird itching to get airborne.
Exciting times ahead!
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First flight of glitches for Dreamliner No. 2
Boeing's 787 Dreamliner No. 2 landed safely at Boeing Field after its first test flight, which was marred by minor trouble with the landing gear and brakes
Boeing news | First flight of glitches for Dreamliner No. 2 | Seattle Times Newspaper
Second Boeing 787 Dreamliner Completes First Flight
This is the second of six 787s being used in the airplane's flight-test program
(Everett, Wash., December 22, 2009) -- The second Boeing (NYSE: BA) 787 Dreamliner, ZA002, completed its first flight today. The all-new airplane, which features the livery of the Dreamliner's launch customer, ANA (All Nippon Airways) of Japan, took off from Paine Field in Everett, completed a two-hour flight and landed at Boeing Field in Seattle.
"We are delighted that the second Dreamliner is in the livery of our launch customer, ANA," said Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of the 787 program. "We are honored by the airline's support and look forward to delivering ANA the first production airplane next year."
Captain Randy Neville was at the controls for the flight, with Chief Pilot Mike Carriker operating as co-pilot. Neville and Carriker took the airplane to an altitude of 13,000 feet (3,962 m) and an airspeed of 200 knots, or about 230 miles (370 km) per hour. The airplane took off at 9:09 a.m. PST and landed at 11:10 a.m. PST.
This is the second of six 787s being used in the airplane's flight-test program. Each of the airplanes will be used for a specific set of tests, with this airplane focusing on systems performance. Like its predecessor, ZA001, the airplane is powered by two Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines.
"We would like to convey our sincere congratulations to the Boeing team for its achievement of this milestone, and we look forward to the delivery into our fleet next year," said Shinichiro Ito, president and CEO of ANA.
Source : The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA)
JetPhotos.Net Photo » N787EX (CN: 40691) All Nippon Airways (ANA) Boeing 787-881 Dreamliner by Joe G. Walker
(Everett, Wash., December 22, 2009) -- The second Boeing (NYSE: BA) 787 Dreamliner, ZA002, completed its first flight today. The all-new airplane, which features the livery of the Dreamliner's launch customer, ANA (All Nippon Airways) of Japan, took off from Paine Field in Everett, completed a two-hour flight and landed at Boeing Field in Seattle.
"We are delighted that the second Dreamliner is in the livery of our launch customer, ANA," said Scott Fancher, vice president and general manager of the 787 program. "We are honored by the airline's support and look forward to delivering ANA the first production airplane next year."
Captain Randy Neville was at the controls for the flight, with Chief Pilot Mike Carriker operating as co-pilot. Neville and Carriker took the airplane to an altitude of 13,000 feet (3,962 m) and an airspeed of 200 knots, or about 230 miles (370 km) per hour. The airplane took off at 9:09 a.m. PST and landed at 11:10 a.m. PST.
This is the second of six 787s being used in the airplane's flight-test program. Each of the airplanes will be used for a specific set of tests, with this airplane focusing on systems performance. Like its predecessor, ZA001, the airplane is powered by two Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines.
"We would like to convey our sincere congratulations to the Boeing team for its achievement of this milestone, and we look forward to the delivery into our fleet next year," said Shinichiro Ito, president and CEO of ANA.
Source : The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA)
JetPhotos.Net Photo » N787EX (CN: 40691) All Nippon Airways (ANA) Boeing 787-881 Dreamliner by Joe G. Walker
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Boeing ponders future of 787-3
4:00 AM Monday Jan 11, 2010
CHICAGO - Boeing is re-evaluating plans for a short-range version of its 787 airplane after the sole airline with pending orders went with other Boeing models instead.
Randy Tinseth, vice-president of marketing for Boeing's commercial airplanes division, wrote in a company blog that Boeing will "continue to assess the market viability" of the 787-3, a model that Boeing describes as a "super-efficient airplane" aimed at the middle of the market. Boeing said the plane used 20 per cent less fuel than other planes of its size, and seats 290 to 330 passengers and had a range of 4600 to 5612km.
Boeing has poured billions of dollars into developing the family of 787 jetliners, which feature radical departures from other planes in design to make the planes quieter, lighter and less fuel-thirsty. The initial flight of a 787 took place last month, two years behind schedule as the programme has been plagued by parts problems and delays.
The move to rethink the 787-3's future comes after Japan's All Nippon Airways converted its 787-3 orders into other models, a decision that left Boeing, based in Chicago, with no orders left for the plane in the company's backlog, Tinseth said.
Other models in the Boeing 787 family include the 787-8, which can carry 210 to 250 passengers with a range of 14,076 to 15,088km, and the 787-9, which can carry 250 to 290 passengers with a range of 14,720 to 15,640km.
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4:00 AM Monday Jan 11, 2010
CHICAGO - Boeing is re-evaluating plans for a short-range version of its 787 airplane after the sole airline with pending orders went with other Boeing models instead.
Randy Tinseth, vice-president of marketing for Boeing's commercial airplanes division, wrote in a company blog that Boeing will "continue to assess the market viability" of the 787-3, a model that Boeing describes as a "super-efficient airplane" aimed at the middle of the market. Boeing said the plane used 20 per cent less fuel than other planes of its size, and seats 290 to 330 passengers and had a range of 4600 to 5612km.
Boeing has poured billions of dollars into developing the family of 787 jetliners, which feature radical departures from other planes in design to make the planes quieter, lighter and less fuel-thirsty. The initial flight of a 787 took place last month, two years behind schedule as the programme has been plagued by parts problems and delays.
The move to rethink the 787-3's future comes after Japan's All Nippon Airways converted its 787-3 orders into other models, a decision that left Boeing, based in Chicago, with no orders left for the plane in the company's backlog, Tinseth said.
Other models in the Boeing 787 family include the 787-8, which can carry 210 to 250 passengers with a range of 14,076 to 15,088km, and the 787-9, which can carry 250 to 290 passengers with a range of 14,720 to 15,640km.
-AP
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B748 first flight today - we hope!
This thread has been a combination of 787 and the 747-8 so I figure its newsworthy enough to put this back up.
This morning our time was scheduled to be the first flight of the newest generation 747 from Everett. However just like Melbourne, you cant trust the weather and as of an hour ago she was waiting for the cloud base to rise.
If I get any video or pics, I will do my best to post them.
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This morning our time was scheduled to be the first flight of the newest generation 747 from Everett. However just like Melbourne, you cant trust the weather and as of an hour ago she was waiting for the cloud base to rise.
If I get any video or pics, I will do my best to post them.
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There's a live webcast of the landing in about 25 minutes from now.
Boeing 747-8 Freighter First Flight
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The Queen of the Skies lives on! The GEnx-2B engines are said to make the aircraft 17% more fuel efficient than the -400 series (ref the Boeing web site). I'm wondering what would prevent the same engines being installed as an upgrade on the -400 series. Also the scalloping on the engines (also noted on the 787) at the business end is interesting - I'd be interested to learn its purpose.
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Roller Fan?
The Rolls engines are nearly a tonne heavier than the GE's. While the Vmcg is lower, their performance in the climb above mach transition is considerably less than the GE's. They take 5 minutes to warm up (3 for the GE), so for short taxi times like LA for 24L, the warm up time can be a limitation for departure (if the cabin crew are fast enough). The residual thrust is less (so on flare I always retard the levers at 30ft for the Rolls) c.f. 50 ft for the GE's, and as it is company policy to shut down 2 engines on arrival after the mandatory cool down period, the Rolls always requires more than idle thrust to keep the aircraft moving. Plus they whine like a bunch of Poms on a Seven's holiday.
Give me GE's anyday!
Give me GE's anyday!