Air NZ may fly jets in regions
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AirNZ board decision 23July
This is an article from FlightGlobal.com
ANZ board to consider regional aircraft order on 23 July
Still waiting as long as they can before making a decision.
Mount Cook will have to wait a little bit longer. Would just about bet the house on 72-500s leading into the 600 and 900. But never say never to Q400, regional jet is highly unlikely unless the market is about to drastically change.
ANZ board to consider regional aircraft order on 23 July
Still waiting as long as they can before making a decision.
Mount Cook will have to wait a little bit longer. Would just about bet the house on 72-500s leading into the 600 and 900. But never say never to Q400, regional jet is highly unlikely unless the market is about to drastically change.
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Does this mean Boeing is losing patience offering the 777-300ERs to Qantas, and AirNZ is the next one on the list?
It's not a matter of if they are getting them, it's more a matter of when....It appears they've been offered the option of earlier slots, due to other airlines deferring deliveries (due to high oil prices), this means Air nz's 777's have the option to be built earlier. Although you can bet your boots that Boeing is still keen for Air Nz to exercise some of it's options and increase it's order too....
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From what ive heard..... if AirNZ can move a few of their 747s then they will take delivery of the extra 777s earlier than expected. The problem up until now was trying to get their hands on available 777s, they have infact been out hunting for them this year. Now that this has come to news I think we may see something happen..... and most likely in the very near future.
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And the winner is ...
... the status quo!
The ATR-500 will continue in service until being replaced by the -600 verson around 2010/2011.
As for the -900, it remains to be seen if ATR even go ahead with it.
Reasons are; Fuel Economy is just too good for the ATR compared with Q400 - no matter which way you look at it! Plus any merger of the MC and NS pilot groups - for the group common type qual on Q300/Q400 - has apparently ended up in the 'too hard' bin.
As for replacements for the 733? There has been documentation sighted about winglet mods - a-la Southwest 733's. Cheap at approx $2.5m(?) per aircraft for the fuel savings/performance.
The ATR-500 will continue in service until being replaced by the -600 verson around 2010/2011.
As for the -900, it remains to be seen if ATR even go ahead with it.Reasons are; Fuel Economy is just too good for the ATR compared with Q400 - no matter which way you look at it! Plus any merger of the MC and NS pilot groups - for the group common type qual on Q300/Q400 - has apparently ended up in the 'too hard' bin.
As for replacements for the 733? There has been documentation sighted about winglet mods - a-la Southwest 733's. Cheap at approx $2.5m(?) per aircraft for the fuel savings/performance.
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The ATR-500 will continue in service until being replaced by the -600 verson around 2010/2011. As for the -900, it remains to be seen if ATR even go ahead with it.
If that is the case then there will be plenty of that. 900!!!!!!! its never going to happen. 
<- the little icon shows what the French are doing rite now as they realise they underpowered the 600 and let a great opportunity pass them by.Apparently the 23rd is the board meeting and decision but I doubt in the current climate we will find out then. Air NZ has bigger problems to deal with at the moment (Air NSN, EAG and mainline)
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I have been reliably informed by those that know these things, that while Air NZ could indeed get earlier production slots for their 773s they will be paying full retail price rather than their contracted option price. For this reason it is still palatable to run the 744.
As for the 733 replacement, all plans are on hold. They know they won't last until 2020 when the NG replacement will be available, however nothing will do the job as well as the 733. So status quo for the time being.
I have been reliably informed by those that know these things, that while Air NZ could indeed get earlier production slots for their 773s they will be paying full retail price rather than their contracted option price. For this reason it is still palatable to run the 744.
As for the 733 replacement, all plans are on hold. They know they won't last until 2020 when the NG replacement will be available, however nothing will do the job as well as the 733. So status quo for the time being.
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I think ATR have got it right with the 72-600 going for fuel efficiency and a good load carrying ability - it will carry the about the same as a Dash8-400.
The Dash8-400 is obviously faster but burns more fuel and is draging an apu around as opposed to a 40kg prop brake. I might be wrong but i believe the 400's operating with QF are operating at a reduced engine power to conserve engine life because the engines were burning out at high power settings.
The Dash8-400 is obviously faster but burns more fuel and is draging an apu around as opposed to a 40kg prop brake. I might be wrong but i believe the 400's operating with QF are operating at a reduced engine power to conserve engine life because the engines were burning out at high power settings.
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As for replacements for the 733? There has been documentation sighted about winglet mods - a-la Southwest 733's. Cheap at approx $2.5m(?) per aircraft for the fuel savings/performance.
As for replacements for the 733? There has been documentation sighted about winglet mods - a-la Southwest 733's. Cheap at approx $2.5m(?) per aircraft for the fuel savings/performance.
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I might be wrong but i believe the 400's operating with QF are operating at a reduced engine power to conserve engine life because the engines were burning out at high power settings.
I might be wrong but i believe the 400's operating with QF are operating at a reduced engine power to conserve engine life because the engines were burning out at high power settings.
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And the winner is ...... the status quo!
The ATR-500 will continue in service until being replaced by the -600 verson around 2010/2011.
The ATR-500 will continue in service until being replaced by the -600 verson around 2010/2011.
In fact I've flown with a couple of MC C&T'ers lately and they say it's still too close to call.
Plus any merger of the MC and NS pilot groups - for the group common type qual on Q300/Q400 - has apparently ended up in the 'too hard' bin.
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Looks like we could be waiting a wee bit longer. Perhaps not until the 26 of August when the 2008 financials are released?
I have read a few snippets in various news articles which tend to suggest that Pacific Blue is about to announce a major expansion of services on the domestic front....I did remember hearing that up to 4 737-800s had been moved from the main VB fleet to be used on PB overseas routes...could this include more domestic flights and perhaps new destinations?
I have read a few snippets in various news articles which tend to suggest that Pacific Blue is about to announce a major expansion of services on the domestic front....I did remember hearing that up to 4 737-800s had been moved from the main VB fleet to be used on PB overseas routes...could this include more domestic flights and perhaps new destinations?
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WTF!! Where did that come from?? Maybe a JH pipedream, but def nothing of the sort was ever mentioned to the MC Pilot group about that. Why would we need a group common type qual anyway?
A merger cud kill two birds - literally!
Sort the "dramas" that is currently happening with MC/NS v AirNZ, plus allow some changes of helms-men. Isn't the helms-man of the prop-ABus fleet, a good bud of the helms-man of the company Aston Martin?
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Isn't the helms-man of the prop-ABus fleet, a good bud of the helms-man of the company Aston Martin?
or so I heard.....
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Sort the "dramas" that is currently happening with MC/NS v AirNZ
1279. What do you mean?
1279. What do you mean?
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After the last prop-ABus negotiations were settled, said current helmsman caught up ex-RNZAF fellow (current senior helmsman) to reminisce the days in blue, and may have mentioned some of the ****e that had been going on that wasn't mentioned in official channels and then someone wasn't offered an extension to their contract.
or so I heard.....
or so I heard.....
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Air NZ board meeting on Wed 24th Sept, with expected decision on the Mt Cook fleet plans. GM has mentioned in last newsletter an announcement to staff will be made on wednesday.
Any last bids on the outcome??
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Any last bids on the outcome??
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