Virgin Blue To Operate Embraer's On Albury-Sydney Route.
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My fur seems to be falling off me.
I must say thank you for those who have included me in the discussions.
As per 'KRUSTY 34', my position in VB is not important. And it was direct approach 34R (apologies for the typo) on that day, being such a lunch time flight the airport is a little less strangled.
'Flyitboy' the passengers onboard have a keen interest in physical flight time and I don't disagree that flyers need the exact timing from close of door to parking at the gate.
At the end of the day... the seats are filling and I have my job.
I must say thank you for those who have included me in the discussions.
As per 'KRUSTY 34', my position in VB is not important. And it was direct approach 34R (apologies for the typo) on that day, being such a lunch time flight the airport is a little less strangled.
'Flyitboy' the passengers onboard have a keen interest in physical flight time and I don't disagree that flyers need the exact timing from close of door to parking at the gate.
At the end of the day... the seats are filling and I have my job.
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Hear hear Kittyblue, keep up the good work. Good to hear ABX is doing OK for VB and here's hoping they might look at the MEL route down the track too, though not sure on how realistic that is!
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The best way for the company to make those descisions ( like the ADL-BME seasonal) flights is to consider the connecting feeder service MELSYDABX rtn and if its constant and the right price is attracting passengers then it is doable. So fingers crossed for those who would like to see MELABX direct.
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Is it really worth flying to MEL. By the time you drive to the airport, check in, clear security, etc, you would have pretty much used up close to the three hours that it takes to drive. That doesnt even take into consideration any delays, holding by ATC, etc.
I can't see VB wasting an aircraft on this. There are surely other routes that would be more lucrative.
I can't see VB wasting an aircraft on this. There are surely other routes that would be more lucrative.
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'oz' I have re read the posts that might have a neg impact on KB & I couldn't see one that was derogatory, insulting in anyway. These are all opinions with some accompanied by facts/personal experiences, no more no less! Maybe yr reading into the posts a little too much, besides 'KB' doesn't seem to be too offended
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I was offended to a degree and I appreciated the sentiment of others. Thou as we are anon here I will accept it less personal than 'airline geek' emotional chat.
Hey as for those who connect from MEL at present there seem to be more from ADL,OOL and BNE on board.
Hey as for those who connect from MEL at present there seem to be more from ADL,OOL and BNE on board.
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'KB' I'll say soz here seeing as what I said may have upset you, wasn't what I wanted to do in the first place. I was just trying to get my views across from experience that's all. Pax in any form of transport just want to get there, as far as they are concerned once aboard any transport they would be thinking lets get this show on the rd, or in our case airborne. Just that planes are now no more exciting than riding a boring bus these days. It's just another form of transport. In fact if I have to pax on a plane it bores me to tears & I love flying (doing it myself) so can't imagine what it must be like for the gen public esspecially 'suit' types who have would take little pleasure being cramped inside a tube & fed stuff that supposed to represent food!
I believe it now takes longer to fly say ML-SYD these days than it did some years ago 'cause it's lack luster & no longer exciting for the pax so hence their all doing it causing the obvious & on the cheap!
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I believe it now takes longer to fly say ML-SYD these days than it did some years ago 'cause it's lack luster & no longer exciting for the pax so hence their all doing it causing the obvious & on the cheap!
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Nearly a week since the last post.....
I'd have thought this thread would have had more lively discussion as it is about the 'prop' versus the 'jet' argument.
Current indications are that despite a few early ABX flights that were full with the $1.00 fare payers the average 'Jungle Jet' loads SYD-ABX-SYD seemed to have settled down to around 30 pax per sector, which on a 78 set aircraft is a load factor of 38 percent on fares around $109.00!!
As the 'jungle Jet' costs USD $24 million per copy and jet fuel is currently costing around USD $107.00 per barrell, all this activity for no profit must be making for some interesting discussions in the DJ board room OUCH! Does anyone know how the 'Jungle Jet' is going in the Port Macquarie market against Eastern and what the comparative loads have been like?
Current indications are that despite a few early ABX flights that were full with the $1.00 fare payers the average 'Jungle Jet' loads SYD-ABX-SYD seemed to have settled down to around 30 pax per sector, which on a 78 set aircraft is a load factor of 38 percent on fares around $109.00!!
As the 'jungle Jet' costs USD $24 million per copy and jet fuel is currently costing around USD $107.00 per barrell, all this activity for no profit must be making for some interesting discussions in the DJ board room OUCH! Does anyone know how the 'Jungle Jet' is going in the Port Macquarie market against Eastern and what the comparative loads have been like?
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Yes, Albury services has had major support from the Albury community. Loads are 50-70 as noted by ccysam.
With the two services a day, they are complimented with the other rex services provided. Makes a very well used regional airport.
With the two services a day, they are complimented with the other rex services provided. Makes a very well used regional airport.
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While it is a common misconception that a bringing in a Jet will dominate a market and 'break' the existing operator; History tell's otherwise. Sometimes people bite off more then they can chew.
