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Old 31st Aug 2007, 07:33
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No I'd prefer you do the job your signed up for and stop this strike crap.
...Frozo, as far as dix n cox are concerned, QF engineers are paid to get planes in the air, not to find problems with them. As long as the plane has an aerobridge hooked up and a flow of pax, they are fat, dumb and happy. They care not one bit about the quality and safety of the plane. Those days are gone. If something goes wrong, if one hits the deck, who do you think is going to end up in court? Dix? Cox? or the QF engineer?

You, ManagersP, HDog and Aircraft need to get your heads around this.

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Old 31st Aug 2007, 08:24
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Providing for hull loss

To take issue with Sunfish.

I'd expect a prudent management, (QF, DJ, NZ, SQ ) doesn't matter which,to understand what a catastrophic hull and life loss event might cost.

And then make provision for it. It's called good management.

I don't know if a rolling 5 or 10 year period is right (not a bean counter), but some provision and recognition is sensible.

Nothing to do with engineering outsourcing.

It is said that Swissair's demise was in part related to the fact that they had not considered or understood the need to manage the costs of a catastrophe.

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Old 31st Aug 2007, 10:22
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Sorry Sunfish I have to agree that the hull loss plans won't win favour with the public.

Being a mate of SP I can say that the ALAEA are seeking expert PR advice from an external consultant every time they talk to the press. The issue of hull loss has been raised and dropped when more newsworthy items seem to be grabbing the attention.
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Old 31st Aug 2007, 20:41
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Thank you Goaty! I'm glad you are getting professional advice. It's very important (although it shouldn't be) to be able to put your case to people in very short 'sound bites".
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Old 1st Sep 2007, 00:57
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And then make provision for it. It's called good management.
I see in the news that Qantas provisioned for a $40M fine for illegal price-fixing of cargo rates (in conjunction with other airlines). Just shows how much management cares about Joe Public.
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Old 2nd Sep 2007, 11:46
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The masked goatrider.

All along I thought it was the "two balls one sack" scenario.

"Being a mate of SP"

Guess I stand corrected.
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Old 2nd Sep 2007, 14:14
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Hull loss or two!

The concern now comes is if the current mindset of management believes there is more money to be made driving maintenance down to and accepting crashes/accidents COMPARED TO best maintenance to prevent all accidents, then the most profitable will be chosen! The latter is ideal, the former may be a real business decision
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Old 3rd Sep 2007, 07:41
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Any word on what happened in the commision today?
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Old 3rd Sep 2007, 21:30
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BSS

Obviously The Cox/Murray/Hespe motto is running hard

Bonus before Saftey & Schedule!
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Old 4th Sep 2007, 09:07
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looks like the boys got smashed in the commish,no vote ,looks like rafaelli has some more first class tickets coming
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Old 4th Sep 2007, 11:23
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Apparently the President's the devil and the IR manager's a saint

Only in John Howard's Australia could the laws prevent you from protecting people

Guys, hes gotta go
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Old 4th Sep 2007, 14:29
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looks like the boys got smashed in the commish,no vote
Well surprise, surprise, surprise..........

MP.
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Old 4th Sep 2007, 21:59
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MP you're right for once......Big Business....Government....and then the employee/the general public and guess who won.........thats right no surprise at all really.....
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Old 4th Sep 2007, 22:23
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Reading coxes email it looks like they want to settle the eba to stop this sort of thing.my prediction vote november 3% back pay paid befour christmas. another 3% in january

sop
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Old 4th Sep 2007, 23:19
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It's not over 'till the fat lady sings lads, watch this space.......
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 01:42
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So what has happened?

Are OJO/OJQ still flying or are they being inspected?
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 02:22
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3%

You have to be kidding 3% after another record profit!
Time to wake up it has to be a hell of a lot more than that somewhere between 6 - 8% nothing less....even the bus and train drivers are getting 5% backdated....you want to settle for 3%?
No more overtime no secondments no higher duties...
See how that works...
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 03:45
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No more overtime no secondments no higher duties...
See how that works...
That would send a clear message, it would have probably greater impact than grounding two 744's, however it will never happen. Solidarity is a thing of the past.
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 14:11
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negotions progressed well, RDO bank, DIL bank, OT bank, suiet of rosters for all H/M lames and if you are lucky and are employed in H/M Victoria you get to drive up and down the Geelong F/Way for a small allowence yet still no $$$$$ on the table. So as you can see once again QF have loaded the cards to create a rift between H/M and ACS (yes i am simpathitic to your one man pushback and roster issues) lets hope all will think of the future when the time comes to show how well the progress has been and not worry about the 3% backpay just in time for xmas as mine will equal 2 weeks worth of O/T and I for one will stand on the the old saying "ALL FOR ONE" stay strong and focused for a better than 3% outcome
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Old 5th Sep 2007, 21:55
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the whole lot of you are piss weak,it's September now the EBA run out 9 months ago,spineless and weak,MP must be laughing his tits off at you lot
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