Mega Merged: Qantas Long Haul Cabin Crew Eba8 Negotiations
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No Certainty....Yet
LobeLess there are a lot of Wot Ifs in your rhetoric.
Lets see who wins next weeks election before we start beating the war drums.
Its easier to fight standing on granite rather than on sand
Lets see who wins next weeks election before we start beating the war drums.
Its easier to fight standing on granite rather than on sand
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Defcon....
Let's see if you can actually continue your argument without your infantile habit of name calling?...Or is it you that wants this thread closed?
I was asking valid questions in response to a press release which most people would find arrogant in the least.
Let's see if you can actually continue your argument without your infantile habit of name calling?...Or is it you that wants this thread closed?
I was asking valid questions in response to a press release which most people would find arrogant in the least.
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Lobe is Retired
While you are entitled to post your opinions and perceptions here lobe,your credibility and relevance are seriously undermined by your QF employment status:you are an outsider.
This is a serious issue for those of us who are still employed by the rat.
You are and always have been a stirrer and devils advocate, contributing little in the way of constructive and sensible argument.
You have, in your more cornered moments, seen fit to malign and name call.So get of your high horse and come to terms with your irrelevance.
Enjoy your retirement.
This is a serious issue for those of us who are still employed by the rat.
You are and always have been a stirrer and devils advocate, contributing little in the way of constructive and sensible argument.
You have, in your more cornered moments, seen fit to malign and name call.So get of your high horse and come to terms with your irrelevance.
Enjoy your retirement.
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watch your6............Yes it's true that I am retired but I'd like you to show us some of your constructive comments in your posts....all 10 of them.
Instead of having a go at me why don't you address the issue here and tell us your view in a constructive way?
At least I was crew so how do we know who is really posting here including you watch your6?
You could be company or union or anyone really....
Instead of having a go at me why don't you address the issue here and tell us your view in a constructive way?
At least I was crew so how do we know who is really posting here including you watch your6?
You could be company or union or anyone really....
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The Usual Suspect
The same can be said of you ..how does anyone know if you are/were crew?.We just have your dubious word.
Everyone here is anonymous and their true identities and motives are always open to question.
You are stating the obvious.
You do however use spellchecker very well
As was stated earlier "lets wait until the election is over".We will then have a clearer understanding of what our options are.
Good Luck to MM and his team.They have an enormous responsibility,which they appear to be handling well.
Everyone here is anonymous and their true identities and motives are always open to question.
You are stating the obvious.
You do however use spellchecker very well
As was stated earlier "lets wait until the election is over".We will then have a clearer understanding of what our options are.
Good Luck to MM and his team.They have an enormous responsibility,which they appear to be handling well.
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watch your6..............EXACTLY......My point though is not to just fall over in a heap because of this press release and give in.
Wait until the election is over and see if they can do the things they are threatening.
As far as my relevance here is concerned I have a son that wants to get a job as crew.So in a direct way I do have a reason to be interested.
Wait until the election is over and see if they can do the things they are threatening.
As far as my relevance here is concerned I have a son that wants to get a job as crew.So in a direct way I do have a reason to be interested.
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MidNight 63 is a Newbie
I am retired.I flew for 32 years.
It causes me a great deal of concern that Cabin Crew have deteriorated into such a rabble.
If you get done over you will have only yourselves to blame.
Wake up and realise that Dixon is the enemy...not your colleagues.
It causes me a great deal of concern that Cabin Crew have deteriorated into such a rabble.
If you get done over you will have only yourselves to blame.
Wake up and realise that Dixon is the enemy...not your colleagues.
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I thought I would give a call to my CCTM( cough !) to ask her opinion of the Scott Rochfort artcle in todays smh.
After 4 attempts being passed around by BOS, "not she's at Morning tea ???","she'll call you back " ..............she called me back ater 3 hours.
I asked her the question.
Her response..." errr ahhhh ....what article, mmmm ahhhh ahhhh , I don't know anything about it, ahhha mmmmm we already have a London base ".
I then said ..........."could you find out what is happening, as I think this is an important issue?".
She'll " ..... get back to me"
These morons really are amazing...........'though why am I surprised??
Me thinks the QF spin team ( Belinda de Rome et al) leaked this out to Scotty last night, just in time to kick things off on the right foot this morning at EBA negotiations.
Call me a cynic ...........but this Company is ethically and morally bankrupt.( as if you didn't already know this)
All I can say is ....ROLL ON SATURDAY.
Then its :
BOOT....and good riddance.
After 4 attempts being passed around by BOS, "not she's at Morning tea ???","she'll call you back " ..............she called me back ater 3 hours.
I asked her the question.
Her response..." errr ahhhh ....what article, mmmm ahhhh ahhhh , I don't know anything about it, ahhha mmmmm we already have a London base ".
I then said ..........."could you find out what is happening, as I think this is an important issue?".
She'll " ..... get back to me"
These morons really are amazing...........'though why am I surprised??
Me thinks the QF spin team ( Belinda de Rome et al) leaked this out to Scotty last night, just in time to kick things off on the right foot this morning at EBA negotiations.
Call me a cynic ...........but this Company is ethically and morally bankrupt.( as if you didn't already know this)
All I can say is ....ROLL ON SATURDAY.
Then its :
BOOT....and good riddance.
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i am with you
on this one WT6. first i wait till the monday announcement from the faaa comes. secondly i shall concentrate on the big game in the country. another chardy then
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The arrogance of some with numbers after their name is breathtaking.
Sounds like my way or the highway to me.
Freedom of speech, coming in at a discussion on an angle is not a hanging offence.
I just hope you aren't on the negotiating team.
Sounds like my way or the highway to me.
Freedom of speech, coming in at a discussion on an angle is not a hanging offence.
I just hope you aren't on the negotiating team.
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Razor,
Good comments that you posted and you certainly cut a raw nerve with eden66 who is rapidly losing the plot.......and the numbers. Even if you are an FAAA supporter any comment offering a differing opinion to their's is met with derision and it was no surprise that a numbered goon came in after your post with a catty comment......that should be no surprise either!!
Also no surprise was yesterday's newspaper article. This company is so un-Australian now it's disgraceful. As is the obscene amount of executive bonuses. At a time of record profit's you would think Australian's would be assured of a job but our esteemed management, some with apparent psychopathic tendencies, just loves to inflict as much pain as possible. It will be a very interesting EBA and I can only wish our negotiating team well.
Good comments that you posted and you certainly cut a raw nerve with eden66 who is rapidly losing the plot.......and the numbers. Even if you are an FAAA supporter any comment offering a differing opinion to their's is met with derision and it was no surprise that a numbered goon came in after your post with a catty comment......that should be no surprise either!!
Also no surprise was yesterday's newspaper article. This company is so un-Australian now it's disgraceful. As is the obscene amount of executive bonuses. At a time of record profit's you would think Australian's would be assured of a job but our esteemed management, some with apparent psychopathic tendencies, just loves to inflict as much pain as possible. It will be a very interesting EBA and I can only wish our negotiating team well.
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Eden....
I'm sure we all agree that Darth is the one we should focus on.
You are just giving more ammunition to those who are critical of the FAAA's attitude.
What exactly is the union's position and information on how the Labor Government would change the IR laws if it wins office.
How would these changes then impact the company's position and ability to hire off shore as implied in the SMH article on Monday?
I'm sure we all agree that Darth is the one we should focus on.
You are just giving more ammunition to those who are critical of the FAAA's attitude.
What exactly is the union's position and information on how the Labor Government would change the IR laws if it wins office.
How would these changes then impact the company's position and ability to hire off shore as implied in the SMH article on Monday?
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Pertinent Questions ?
Are you asking these questions because
1.You dont know the answers...or
2.You are again playing Devils Advocate?
If its one (1.)then buy yourself a copy of readers digest.
If its two( 2)then you are playing to a very small audience of about 10 CC PPruners and the question quickly becomes irrelevant.Anyone who is concerned about these issues would already have an idea of the answer.
1.You dont know the answers...or
2.You are again playing Devils Advocate?
If its one (1.)then buy yourself a copy of readers digest.
If its two( 2)then you are playing to a very small audience of about 10 CC PPruners and the question quickly becomes irrelevant.Anyone who is concerned about these issues would already have an idea of the answer.
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.......Readers digest....Is that where you get your latest info from surfside?
If there are only 10 people looking at Pprune why then do Eden,Guardian,yourself and some FAAA supporters go to the trouble of refuting posts made by people who want to ask the FAAA a question?
Why not answer a simple question.....that is if you know?
This is simply a forum for discussion and rumour but it would appear that some here are not happy with this.
Why would that be surfside?
If there are only 10 people looking at Pprune why then do Eden,Guardian,yourself and some FAAA supporters go to the trouble of refuting posts made by people who want to ask the FAAA a question?
Why not answer a simple question.....that is if you know?
This is simply a forum for discussion and rumour but it would appear that some here are not happy with this.
Why would that be surfside?
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Lobey"s Reds Under The Bed
Lobey sees reds under the bed.
Everyone in the FAAA has a hidden agenda that is tangential to the wants and needs of the LH CC population.
Those at the FAAA work their butts off,give of their time to further job security of LH crew and are maligned for their efforts.
Lobey is so concerned that he never ever volunteered to stand for election to the FAAA.He prefers to snipe,criticize and malign from the sidelines.
You are now retired,with no doubt plenty of time on your hands.
Offer them your invaluable assistance and insight.I'm sure it would be much appreciated.
Everyone in the FAAA has a hidden agenda that is tangential to the wants and needs of the LH CC population.
Those at the FAAA work their butts off,give of their time to further job security of LH crew and are maligned for their efforts.
Lobey is so concerned that he never ever volunteered to stand for election to the FAAA.He prefers to snipe,criticize and malign from the sidelines.
You are now retired,with no doubt plenty of time on your hands.
Offer them your invaluable assistance and insight.I'm sure it would be much appreciated.
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.....So you still don't want to answer a few simple questions.....
The rest is just the usual examples of infantile diversionary rhetoric....
The rest is just the usual examples of infantile diversionary rhetoric....
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You are hilarious.
You accuse others of using the same tactics that you have no doubt perfected over a lifetime and then have the gall to complain.
Get over yourself you pultroon
You accuse others of using the same tactics that you have no doubt perfected over a lifetime and then have the gall to complain.
Get over yourself you pultroon
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ohh paleeeeze!!!!
Get over it.
We're heading for the usual regurgitated bile that seems to infect this forum.
The topic is the EBA.
The man in the crosshairs is the bloke that resides at Balmoral.
The first part of the solution.......punt the member for Bennelong.
Simple.
"life is like a pubic hair on a toilet seat........
...........'sooner or later you get pissed off !"
Get over it.
We're heading for the usual regurgitated bile that seems to infect this forum.
The topic is the EBA.
The man in the crosshairs is the bloke that resides at Balmoral.
The first part of the solution.......punt the member for Bennelong.
Simple.
"life is like a pubic hair on a toilet seat........
...........'sooner or later you get pissed off !"