Jetstar Engine Failure?!?!?!
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Non-ETOPS and without the APU, I guess they'd be down to single generator (or does A330-200 have an HMG?). Doubt it.
APU was inop due was making metal and airbus are very sensitive about APUs as they tend to fly apart when they fail so any metal found on the magnetic chip detectors on a A330, the APU is immediately inop-ed as it was in this case on the brand new A/C. Dead APU does not effect ETOPS
One engine failed, looks like the same fault that caused QFs and other operators IFSDs. Metering valve resolver failure......
The engines supplied should have had a mod to prevent this from happening as the regulatory authorities tend to get miffed when engines fail on twin engine aircraft but it looks like the problem persisits.
Aircraft landed without drama one engine dead, 1 engine working with its Generator operating fine. I doubt the pax on a non IFE aircraft would know if you had 1 2 or 3 generators operating or available. 1 Gen is more than enough to cope with the loads.
A bit surprised the divert went to DPS. The aircraft could be there a while/days, while parts are sourced and shipped to destination. Looks like the Jet* star crew are going to get a bali layover afterall but at what lengths
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Just saw a CH 7 news ad.
"Emergency landing strands hundreds of J* passengers"
I am not trying to inflame any of the more rabid posters here, but I get the distinct impression that J* Intl is only one or two more bad press incidents away from big trouble.
Yes, we all know that sh!t happens. We all know that this was probably very professionally handled by the crew. But perceptions are everything and if I was a mug punter now looking at booking my overseas holiday, going to the Jetstar website now would be giving me pause.
One more headline saying "Jetstar passengers stranded" and that may be it.
The other consideration here is, with a cruise segment IFSD on a very low base of sectors, how will this affect J* ETOPS?
"Emergency landing strands hundreds of J* passengers"
I am not trying to inflame any of the more rabid posters here, but I get the distinct impression that J* Intl is only one or two more bad press incidents away from big trouble.
Yes, we all know that sh!t happens. We all know that this was probably very professionally handled by the crew. But perceptions are everything and if I was a mug punter now looking at booking my overseas holiday, going to the Jetstar website now would be giving me pause.
One more headline saying "Jetstar passengers stranded" and that may be it.
The other consideration here is, with a cruise segment IFSD on a very low base of sectors, how will this affect J* ETOPS?
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I doubt it will make any difference. Most people only care about the $ these days.
As for Jetstar failures - well anyone could be next - it may be the the red rat next - (err I mean the fat bunny with the new logo) especially seeing that the fine folk at Singapore engineering seem to be doing such a marvellous job.
As for Jetstar failures - well anyone could be next - it may be the the red rat next - (err I mean the fat bunny with the new logo) especially seeing that the fine folk at Singapore engineering seem to be doing such a marvellous job.
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I bet there was some VERY ashen faced Tech Crew alighting from the flight deck after surviving that little episode!!!! I can tell you that flying around Asia at night on 1 engine on ANY aircraft (let alone a bloody A320) would send shivers down my spine!!!!! Even moreso with the knowledge that the APU is U/S & only having a single engine driven generator to rely on at night !!!!! Everyone knows that the whole ETOPS criterea was invented to allow the aircraft makers to do away with 3 & 4 engined aircraft & bring in these wondrous fuel saving twins!!!!! I reckon that there is lots & lots of fuel saved once BOTH engines cease to run on an A320!!!!!!!!
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Yes, I just saw the angry snivelling slobbering little Irishman on the news.
"Qantas this.......Qantas that........Qantas Engineering........etc, etc". Not a mention of "Jetstar" anywhere! Especially when skipping over the major complaint of the pax - the information flow and pax handling on the ground.
neville_nobody, your clairvoyancy skills are nothing less than outstanding!
"Qantas this.......Qantas that........Qantas Engineering........etc, etc". Not a mention of "Jetstar" anywhere! Especially when skipping over the major complaint of the pax - the information flow and pax handling on the ground.
neville_nobody, your clairvoyancy skills are nothing less than outstanding!
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Joyce really is a revolting creature. Chipped yellow teeth, scruffy hair, half day growth, revolting 1970s 6inch wide tide. Its a bit like watching Jabba the Huts anus talking.
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F-Class - suspect you are correct. A/C in question 'EBE' was also delayed the other night (then only a little over a week old) with number 2 engine problems. Engineers had all the cowlings open doing an engine run at the gate.
Brand new dud?
Brand new dud?
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Brand New A/c
Crew handled it well
Airline recovery handled well.
Pax handled as well as possible under the circumstances.
Still, I get the impression that some are desperate to find an angle on this one to stir up anti Jetstar sentiment.
Crew handled it well
Airline recovery handled well.
Pax handled as well as possible under the circumstances.
Still, I get the impression that some are desperate to find an angle on this one to stir up anti Jetstar sentiment.
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Hi Bolty
If you were being sarcastic/ironic then it's gone over my head and I apologise in advance.
Personally on one engine with no APU I would be looking for the nearest piece of acceptable length bitumen that could safely take me, any problems that may cause for "the company" in terms of recovery would be the lowest consideration.
If everyone walks off and the company has an intact aircraft well can't see anyone can bitch too much!
The question - were there other options??
If you were being sarcastic/ironic then it's gone over my head and I apologise in advance.
Personally on one engine with no APU I would be looking for the nearest piece of acceptable length bitumen that could safely take me, any problems that may cause for "the company" in terms of recovery would be the lowest consideration.
If everyone walks off and the company has an intact aircraft well can't see anyone can bitch too much!
The question - were there other options??
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If you were being sarcastic/ironic then it's gone over my head and I apologise in advance.
Personally on one engine with no APU I would be looking for the nearest piece of acceptable length bitumen that could safely take me,
Personally on one engine with no APU I would be looking for the nearest piece of acceptable length bitumen that could safely take me,
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According to the news report they had to find the nearest 'international' airport due to customs. If it's a 50/50 call between a smaller airport and one with customs I know which one I would choose. If they landed elsewhere the pax would probably still be on the aircraft as we speak. Well done to the crew.
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Diversion required (ETOPS) if:
- Fuel Leak
- Multiple failures leading to only ONE IDG, APU GEN or EMER GEN remaining available
- Green HYD Circuit LO LVL associated with: 2 IDG failure or APU GEN not available and 1 IDG Failure
Love the airbus! So easy to understand...
- Fuel Leak
- Multiple failures leading to only ONE IDG, APU GEN or EMER GEN remaining available
- Green HYD Circuit LO LVL associated with: 2 IDG failure or APU GEN not available and 1 IDG Failure
Love the airbus! So easy to understand...
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Slightly off thread but the French lessons reminded me of a joke
How many French soldiers does it take to defend Paris?
No one knows,it's never been tried.
How many French soldiers does it take to defend Paris?
No one knows,it's never been tried.
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Wasn't there an issue with an Asian carrier's Airbus 330 a few months or so ago, shutting down 2 engines and the engine manufacturer put out a computer fix?
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Joyce really is a revolting creature. Chipped yellow teeth, scruffy hair, half day growth, revolting 1970s 6inch wide tide. Its a bit like watching Jabba the Huts anus talking.
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RedTBar: "Slightly off thread but the French lessons reminded me of a joke
How many French soldiers does it take to defend Paris?
No one knows,it's never been tried."
Reminds me of another great one....
How many French soldiers does it take to defend Paris?
No one knows,it's never been tried."
Reminds me of another great one....