Why are people so unkind to Jet*?
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Fellas,
Don't get wrapped around the axles WRT Arkmark.
If he keeps flying Garuda we may not have the pleasure of his company much longer.
Perhaps the Aus g'ment will wake up to itself and ban them as per the Europeans.
Don't get wrapped around the axles WRT Arkmark.
If he keeps flying Garuda we may not have the pleasure of his company much longer.
Perhaps the Aus g'ment will wake up to itself and ban them as per the Europeans.
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Jump on staff travel and watch the loads on a MEL-HBA over a period of time ... not consistently chockers. Incidently I know people who regularly travel on these services subload with little drama. The remaining SYD-OOL flights are hit and miss as well. If Jetstar was so horrible these flights would be FULL day in and day out. The fact is for many people the wallet talks, and for an hour sector in the same seat with a free biscuit, the extra cost really doesn't cut it. Sad but true.
If the loads on the LST 737 (timed perfectly for the LST business market) were so fabulous then why was it replaced with a Dash?
What exactly is Tiger going to do differently the JQ doesn't? Am still keenly waiting for someone to spell this out for me. 15kg luggage allowance, similar fare rules, early check in close out, tighter seat pitch than both DJ and JQ, restrictions on bringing your own food on board doesn't seem like anything to necessarily blow JQ out of the water. Tiger is nothing innovative, it is simply another Loco template. Tiger ain't offering full service by any stretch of the imagination. Wait until Tiger turns passengers away from checkin after close out or charges for excess luggage. They won't be giving away freebies. An integral part of the low cost model is the extra revenue earnt for charging passengers to travel on the next flight after missing checkin, charging for excess baggage etc...
And after three years its finally time to move on. Jetstar never took flights from anyone and are certainly not the ones to blame. Qantas made a business decision to hand those flights over in creating Jetstar. Whether you call it proping JQ up or not the reality is the whole concept of Jetstar came from Qantas. And if it wasn't Qantas setting up Jetstar then it would have been someone else going in there with a Loco model blowing QF mainline out of the water on the very routes we have been talking about. How do you think mainline would have stacked up competing head-to-head against Tiger?
If the loads on the LST 737 (timed perfectly for the LST business market) were so fabulous then why was it replaced with a Dash?
What exactly is Tiger going to do differently the JQ doesn't? Am still keenly waiting for someone to spell this out for me. 15kg luggage allowance, similar fare rules, early check in close out, tighter seat pitch than both DJ and JQ, restrictions on bringing your own food on board doesn't seem like anything to necessarily blow JQ out of the water. Tiger is nothing innovative, it is simply another Loco template. Tiger ain't offering full service by any stretch of the imagination. Wait until Tiger turns passengers away from checkin after close out or charges for excess luggage. They won't be giving away freebies. An integral part of the low cost model is the extra revenue earnt for charging passengers to travel on the next flight after missing checkin, charging for excess baggage etc...
And after three years its finally time to move on. Jetstar never took flights from anyone and are certainly not the ones to blame. Qantas made a business decision to hand those flights over in creating Jetstar. Whether you call it proping JQ up or not the reality is the whole concept of Jetstar came from Qantas. And if it wasn't Qantas setting up Jetstar then it would have been someone else going in there with a Loco model blowing QF mainline out of the water on the very routes we have been talking about. How do you think mainline would have stacked up competing head-to-head against Tiger?
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Jetstar never took flights from anyone and are certainly not the ones to blame
How do you think mainline would have stacked up competing head-to-head against Tiger?
The idea for J* came from Darth and not QF.The staff are QF not Darth and as such you might understand why we are not all that happy with the J* idea.
There are a number of flights that darth handed over to J* giving the locals basically no choice and OOL is one of them.Well,when I say no choice they can always fly VB as I do when flying domestically rather than give my money to Darth.
If QF had spent the money on improving the legacy airline it would have been a different story.The business market has been treated woefully.
It would be interesting to see how J* would go if QF was not around to prop it up.
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"There are a number of flights that darth handed over to J* giving the locals basically no choice and OOL is one of them"
Lobey,the hnl trips are another.we used to have 747's and trying to get on with a staff ticket was not much fun and then they give them the flick and put on 767's and mate thats not enough so they give half of them to one star.how long will it be before only jokestar is flying to hnl and not us.
the punters are done over again
Lobey,the hnl trips are another.we used to have 747's and trying to get on with a staff ticket was not much fun and then they give them the flick and put on 767's and mate thats not enough so they give half of them to one star.how long will it be before only jokestar is flying to hnl and not us.
the punters are done over again
