QF A333 heated floors no more???
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QF A333 heated floors no more???
Not being particularly fond of the aircraft to work on it did come as a pleasant surprise to find that those thoughtful chaps at Airbus installed heated floor areas around the doors making a normally cold and unpleasant area comfortable to be in and around.
Can any engineers shed any light on why it seems that the floors are no longer heated resulting in the girls [who seem to feel the cold] having to wrap themselves in several blankets when occupying galley areas on those long night sectors?
Can any engineers shed any light on why it seems that the floors are no longer heated resulting in the girls [who seem to feel the cold] having to wrap themselves in several blankets when occupying galley areas on those long night sectors?
I’m not an engineer but we at CX have had an ongoing problem or apparent problem with them. On a number of occasions cabin crew have reported that the floors have got much hotter than usual. I believe all ours have now been deactivated as a precaution against a possible overheat. I am not aware of any regulative or manufacturer’s directive but one could be out there now?
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Well, it certainly couldn't be heated by the friction of the QF FA's as they served the punters!!!
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all QF's A330's came with heated floors in the door areas. They have all been disabled.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ I suspect or perhaps some genius saw it as another opportunity to disengage.
all QF's A330's came with heated floors in the door areas. They have all been disabled.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ I suspect or perhaps some genius saw it as another opportunity to disengage.
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Does anyone know if this disabling of the floor heaters saves fuel and if so how much?
Or is it just a matter of saving on maintenance?
Or is it just a matter of saving on maintenance?
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Do your sums
The extra churn the engines have to make to run the generators to provide the power to heat the elements to heat the floor = $4,567.99 in additional fuel burn.
Therefore DC gave the order.............."let 'em freeze"
Goes straight to the bonus..................luv it.
Therefore DC gave the order.............."let 'em freeze"
Goes straight to the bonus..................luv it.
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Originally Posted by 404 Titan
I’m not an engineer but we at CX have had an ongoing problem or apparent problem with them. On a number of occasions cabin crew have reported that the floors have got much hotter than usual. I believe all ours have now been deactivated as a precaution against a possible overheat. I am not aware of any regulative or manufacturer’s directive but one could be out there now?
This was talked about on crew voice a couple of months ago and I recall someone from engineering advising that it was being addressed.
As was highlighted in the latest FAAA OH&S newsletter, we need some knitwear or similar for use on all aircraft where is is very cold in the galleys and crewrest.
Unfortunately it seems management are being ridiculous and suggesting we should be wearing thermal underwear!
What are they suggesting, we put on thermals after the meal service, or do they think we should be wearing them all the time, even in tropical climates?
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Poor reliability...
We´ve encountered massive problems with the HFPs: Either they don´t heat, generate smoke/smell, or overheat.
Apparently, it all comes from the choice of materials and joining them in areas of high mechanical load (the ladies´ heels, trolleys etc.). Fluid ingress does the rest.
AI and Goodrich (?) have been developing back and forth, and just prior to qualifiying a new type last year, it failed. Now, they moved on to use titanium panels AFAIK.
The new type should be available in the coming months; hopefully, that´ll end the constant stream of HFPs that need replacement.
I don´t think disabling the HFPs has something to do with fuel saving.
Cheers,
J.V.
Apparently, it all comes from the choice of materials and joining them in areas of high mechanical load (the ladies´ heels, trolleys etc.). Fluid ingress does the rest.AI and Goodrich (?) have been developing back and forth, and just prior to qualifiying a new type last year, it failed. Now, they moved on to use titanium panels AFAIK.
The new type should be available in the coming months; hopefully, that´ll end the constant stream of HFPs that need replacement.
I don´t think disabling the HFPs has something to do with fuel saving.
Cheers,
J.V.
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Quote from Twiggs..
Well,those who work in the office really would not have much of an idea of what crew do would they !!!!!
it seems management are being ridiculous and suggesting we should be wearing thermal underwear!
