Congrats to the Pilots Who Stood Up For Reason

[grrowler]

Interesting to see the police go straight through the screen with their firearms, handcuffs, etc, without getting their ID checked. This would have to happen many times each day at every major airport in Australia.
Dress up as a cop and breeze on through the detector with whatever you want on your person, then hand over your contraband to your waiting mate without attracting attention. Security will be distracted by the pilot they are currently strip searching and won't give you a second thought.

[squawk6969]

And thanks for advertsisng that loud and proud. Should change the name of this thread to "TER101 The Basics"

SQ

[Capt.G.G.2Shoes]

God bless his little cotton socks !!!!!!!!

[Oh that's super!]

What worries me is the possible safety consequence of infuriating the crew (especially, anecdotally there seem to be some security screeners who appear to single out pilots to make them a 'public display'). Sure, you could say that they shouldn't get bothered by that sort of things, but the fact remains, you can get bothered. If that reduces the safety margin, and it happens a lot, then I guess it could possibly result in something bad happening.

Have a look at some UK CHIRP Air Transport Feedbacks for some interesting reports on security screening-related issues.

[fallen]

Sure, you could say that they shouldn't get bothered by that sort of things, but the fact remains, you can get bothered.

I've always thought that if you're going to get infuriated by something that happens at security, even if you have a particularly obnoxious screener, you probably should look for a new career. If you can't handle taking your shoes off/surrendering that tube of toothpaste etc, how are you going to deal with a flight related problem. For example the Rumours and News forum contains a thread about delays at JFK. 90 mins doing a tiki tour of the airport taxiways waiting for your turn to depart is not uncommon. What are you going to do, cut across the grass to get to the front of the queue. I doubt it. Instead you'll apply the same sort of conflict management skills that you should be using at security.

I will point out that all the pilots I as a security screener have dealt with have been nothing but professional. Don't get me started on the professionalism of some of my colleagues though. There's no excuse for being an "obnoxious" screener, coping with difficult situations is part of the job, a chance to put into practice those conflict management and customer service skills you should have.

[Angle of Attack]

For those that think comments here are going to educate wanna be terrorists, lol get over it! Blind Freddy can work out anything plus more that has'nt been said here. This whole issue comes down to the moronic government WE have left in power! Its not just security legislation, if anyone cared to look beyond the commercial news and looked in detail at a lot of legislation thats been passed it would astound you! Terrorism will not be stopped until any worldwide government has the GUTS to address the core issue Israel-Palestaine makes up a fair chunk of that! Until all passengers are chained into a pure metal benchseat setup isolated by a bulkhead from the cockpit or any other acesibble areas and all bags are 100% screened and opened, terrorism is here to stay and will happen, get over it. I mean WTF has changed apart from the paranoia that is coming from government, media, etc? In the last 1000 years? Terrorism has always been here and always will. Nothing much has changed, shock horror 9/11 yeah well thats a fairly small event compared to the overall terrorism acts in the last century. Take a deep breath people the amount of deaths from terrorism acts in the western world has been fairly constant the last 100 years. Might be time to turn off the crap box known as TV because thats what it is. We have far bigger problems.

[buckray]

Interesting that an exemption for the screeners exists in the Regs.The whole system is about politicians giving the impression they have the threat under control.Shame every change to proceedures comes post incident.Can't wait for the press survey on how much faith aircrew have in the current system.Should really boost Joe Publics faith in DOTARS and the Govt to keep them safe.

[A31J]

take a stand

i'm all for, and i'm half inclined to do it myself in response to this lunacy, waltzing up to the screening point amidst a couple of hundred peak hour travellers, resplendant in my company-funded regalia, my government-security agency provided access pass dangling from my neck, and then progressively peeling off the layers of my uniform, tie, jacket, bars, shirt, trousers, etc, all the way down to my jocks. these being placed in a little white tray and passed through the machine that goes 'bing', behind my flight bag, should then allow me to walk through the scanner without triggering an alarm.

i'm sure the 'Chasers' would LOVE to film something like this
anyone with me??